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  1. yeah but that's kind of an understatement there, Andromeda is a permanent ship the likelyhood that anybody would put a non WB CCU of that into buy back is most unlikely. And at a previous price of $225 it was positioned in one of the best spots in terms of pricing, a lot of people trying to complete their fleet would have bought WB CCUs and then put to buy back all the CCUs in between going down to the nearest permanent ship, and had stopped there thinking it was safe to stop since it is always around and the price had never gone up on any flight ready ship before, until 3.14 that is. Sorry I'm salty, but as you said it is very promising as there are still a lot of future flyable ships in that area, so most likely this will just become a mild hickup in the long run. Following your vast experience with CCUs I'll follow on your advice here, but I had already successfully collected not less than 12 CCUs of all future flyable ships last ILW, Alien Week, and 3.14 sale, except of course for the Orion, Endeavor, and any of the hull series, which I think only comes out every IAE. Unlike most of the people in this site, I just recently started, Nov 2020 Free Fly for Star Citizen and just this Feb in collecting and learning all about CCUs, so I am so behind. But at least, since I started, I only missed the opportunity in getting the Nova and the Merchantman before their price increase. But at least I got WB CCUs from them which I think were at their previous prices. And of course there had been a lot more price bumps on other ships especially the Carrack before I started but I cannot help that, I actually had a chance to buy the Carrack WB CCU last IAE 2950, but I wasn't aware of all thses CCUs back then, so too bad for me, but hopefully some of my merchantman CCUs would help me in that price range. That's why I don't use to buy CCUs of future flyable FROM ships, coz I don't really know where it would be priced at on release. But now I will consider collecting CCUs of all the FROM ships (of any WB CCUs) going all the way down to the starter ship ever since 3.14, ever since Andromeda. I think San'tok yai might also fit below $240 since it is a fighter ship, but mostly it might be priced at $240. so you might still be right. I got bunch of Taurus, I actually got way more than I wanted to, that when I reallized I got more than 25 I used up 2 of my Buy Back tokens just to make sure I am at 25, hoping to be under CIG's radar, I just don't want to have any CCU to be more than 25 instances in buy back just in case. Yeah I missed them both. But I got the Nomad game package, good thing I decided to take the Nomad with its LTI rather than the MR 120Mos, but I missed all that Nomad WB CCUs with LTI.......dang. I thats okay I should have stayed more vigilant, and put to buy back those Andromeda CCUs but thats okay the future is still bright That's okay knew that anyway, we are all speculating here, making educated guesses of how CIG thinks. But we all know that CIG shanges the way they think a lot so eventually everything goes outdated anyway. But still continue updating your guidelines its a big help and will help others. I wouldn't had probably thought I would have a chance of buying something like a Polaris if not for the CCU and for your guidelines, so big thanks to you
  2. BTW, I bought all of those MSR WB CCUs with cash of course, do you think they are still going to be forever invalidated? if in case some miracle the MSR gets another price bump a little bit higher than the Andromeda, because you mentioned in your rules that if it was bought with cash, it could possible be bought back if the price of the TO ship eventually goes a bit higher than the FROM ship
  3. Hey @vahadar, I'm really glad to hear from you again. I can see that you are holding true to keeping your set of rules as updated as possible. Now about the Andromedea, Yeah, I got really burned there, it was a big surprise to me, everybody that I asked told me that CIG had not raise prices after releasing a ship, even though I had several videos proving that CIG had raised prices but at that time were all just starter ships which wouldn't hurt anyone's CCU chain. So got so convinced that I melted 9 of the 12 WB CCUs of my Andromeda to MSR, for ILW, which really sucked, and to add insult to injury, I refrained myself from putting to buy back any permanent / always available ship like the Andromeda, so now I only have 3 Andromeda to MSR WB CCUs left and only now have I put some Andromeda CCUs into buy back with it's new price which means the $30 savings from each of those WB CCUs are now down to just $15. But i did not let that pull me down, I quickly re-planned my CCU strategy and now also considers putting always available ships to buy back if it is a FROM ship of any WB CCU or CCU that grants me savings, as I'm no longer taking any chances. My recent WB CCU loses may seem sad but, the Taurus price was much higher than I expected so I am still very happy about that. And I still have a lot to hope for, much too many future flyable ships that, once increases in price would conflict with those invalidated MSR WB CCUs anyway. As an example, I had bought 5 Ion WB CCUs in ILW that gives me a saving of $20 now, and on release would i hope rise a bit more (but hopefully not equal or more than the $260 MSR). Those 5 Ion WB CCUs could most likely replace 5 of my recently invalidated MSR WB CCUs, since those $30 savings from those MSR WB CCUs could potentially be exceeded by the Ion WB CCUs (now $20 saving + potential future price). And to think that there are still so much future flyable ships in that price range, so I am not so down for losing all those MSR WB CCUs. But you are right, regardless of how CIG seems to be handling pricing and bumps in the past, and how many are telling me CIG will not do this or do that, I will instead consider all possibilities, from now on, if I could manage it. And of course that set of rules that you had been maintaining had been very useful, even though I just said I will try to consider all possibilities, situations would still limit what I could put to buy back so your guide helps me determine the least riskiest approach to take, and the best way to maximize using just store credits rather than buying with cash, whenever it is not necessary.
  4. Woah, many thanks again for the code randomizer links, I haven't really given that much thought about those before, but seeing you're getting around a referral a year is not so bad, I'll definitely enter my referral code there who knows right. Yeah I actually did that for the Dragonfly LTI and the ES LTI referral bonus just this Dec/Jan and Apr (3.13 sale). They are now my 2nd and 3rd acnts. I bought a 40.5 USD MR SC game package but no LTI just 2yrs ins. for the 2nd account, and the recent 65 USD Tumbril MT WB LTI for the 3rd acnt, which I gifted to my main acnt after 30 days which just made it for the ILW 2021 to be melted to add funds to put into buy back all future flyable ships for each of my CCU chains. Probably after I complete in getting the remaining future flyable ships, I'll just buy back with credits the Tumbril MT WB as an LTI token. Right now the MT is my only LTI token that I could upgrade and melt freely, the others are the 2 referral bonus and the Nomad SC Game Package LTI (my first pledge) that I do not want to melt, just in case I would need to gift to 1 of my other accounts. That 3rd acnt is already reserved for 1 of my 4 kids, I still have 3 more referral bonus to get acnts for my 3 other kids. The second acnt, I actually use a lot as my pilot while my main acnt enjoys the panoramic views on the Phoenix, or as a ship guard while I'm off trading, or to leave him behind as a quantum beacon if I need to get back to a multiple quantainium asteroid find while mining with a prospector, or to man the second turret while mining with the MOLE, where in that case I found that I no longer need to use consumables if the MOLE has 2 turrets manned, and I even had it tag along during xeno threat which doubled the pay that I received in the event, hehe.
  5. Hi, sorry it took me a while to read up your response. It makes better sense now why the PTV was never upgradable it was originally meant to be a hangar flair. I appreciate that you had to go the extra mile to check if the PTV was ever upgradable, sad that it is not, cause getting that will most likely happen, but the Gladius will take a lot longer if ever that even happens. oh well, that's okay, they were never in my fleet plans to begin with, anyway. So it's just my mind's eye playing tricks on me again. For some reason, I just l keep seeing the PTV, in the first in the all ship listings, probably I just saw it in some other page, and it keeps merging itself to the upgrade page in my mind's eye, that's why I keep remembering it there. Many thanks again. Well at least the PTV is LTI, so that by the time I decide to bring it out to play with it , it will always be available.
  6. You sure, I mean my mind's eye keep showing me the PTV, I even remember its price of 15 USD, but then again, my memory isn't as sharp as it use to be, maybe I am wrong. Not really interested in the PTV itself, but more into when I realized that it could be a potential LTI token, that I haven't accounted for in my fleet planning, but since you are sure that the PTV had never shown itself from the upgrade page, I will not be able to contest its removal from the pledge store which I taught caused its subsequent removal from the upgrade page as well, since it wasn't upgradable in the first place. Too bad, I am most likely to get the PTV by early next year mostly but now that it can't be upgraded, its practically almost worthless, (its soo easy to just buy it in game if i should need it), it would have served better as an LTI token, to save me some money. And yes I was aware that they cannot be melted, I expected it., having already bought to additional acnts for my kids to get the Dragonfly and the ES as referral bonus. I mostly collect the CCUs for my CCU chains, most of then put into buy back, I just simply don't apply any of them until probably when the chain's target ship is actually released and I am absolutely sure that I want it, if not I just don't apply it, until probably when CIG says that they will be taking the CCU feature away and we all have to finalize our fleets, that's probably when I will apply them all, until then I'm fine just using what's left of my store credits to buy or upgrade to some new ship to try it out. Many many thanks for giving me verification, at least I know now that, if ever I make it to the Gladius referral reward I could use it as an LTI token.
  7. Hi, many many thanks for your reply. I am so glad to hear that they are both LTI. Do you think that the PTV had always been un-upgradable? Because I am only a recent backer but I've learned a lot about CCUs and since Feb I had been checking almost nearly everyday the upgrade page and I kinda distinctly remember the PTV being the first ship listed there when you click "all ships", Recently I haven't been visiting the upgrade page as often but when I check it now I no longer see the PTV listed there, and when I go the the pledge store the PTV is no longer for sale, so I was thinking maybe they just recently removed it and also the upgrade from it.
  8. Hi, I just need to know if the Referral Rewards for the PTV (after 5 Referrals) or the Gladius (after 10 referrals) were upgradable? and what insurance they came with? I know that the PTV is no longer for sale nor is it capable to be upgraded from, but if it was previously upgradable, even if you just got it as a reward, I was hoping to contest it to CIG. Hopefully somebody could answer, cause I have 4 kids that I am planning to get RSI acnts for each one, I'm just basically waiting for another one of those referral bonus ship promos, like the recent ones with the Dragonfly and Aurora ES. So I am most likely to get the PTV and maybe at most the Gladius but this one would be much later, i expect.
  9. Hi, I just noticed that the PTV is no longer available for sale. the cheapest ship available is now the ES. So If you are planning to buy other RSI accounts and transfer its credits to your acnt, you will now have to buy the ES (20USD) instead of just 15 USD PTV, to upgrade with credits and gift to your account. Kinda sneaky CIG We can't even buy CCUs from PTV anymore as well.
  10. Many thanks again. I was hoping CIG would be selling WB of carrack nearer to its previews WB savings of 100 USD, the current 20 USD saving is just not enough to justify trying out their subscription. I’ll just wait for a better deal. Thanks again
  11. Hi Apologies for the confusing question. Thanks very much for the reply. So the Carrack is only discounted for 20 USD for a subscriber WB, is that correct? The image show 2 prices, i'm assuming the top one is the WB upgrade with just a 20 usd savings and the bottom one is the standard upgrade.
  12. Hi, Could a current subscriber here tell me the current subscriber warbond upgrade price of the carrack for July 2021? I've been curious to try subscribing even for just a month, but I planned to do it if there is a subscriber WB CCU worth buying as well.
  13. What, it will still be in the old price, even if the price of the Orion only went up to, let's say, $605, for a $5 difference with the Carrack's new Price $600, you would still pay $75 even if you used store credits, when you initially bought the CCU? Keeping to the same price is okay, if the gap had gone bigger than $75 and you still only have to pay $75 to buy it back, that would be nice. When I bought those C2 CCUs, I was analyzing the likelihood of either or both of those FROM ships (Crucible / Endeavor) increasing in price might still be unlikely to happen before ILW and IAE, I just hope I am correct in that assumption, and be able to purchase them in ILW and IAE, respectively, without yet any price increase. ILW is just a few days away anyway, and so far the price of the Crucible haven't gone up yet, when looking at the upgrade page, so I am very hopeful to get the Crucible CCU there, hopefully it is still available again this ILW. I was actually hoping that CIG will update the prices of the C2, M2 in the upgrade page, earlier and I am glad to find out that they do, upgrade it earlier, I thought I will have to wait till Crusader Day to find out. now I could adjust my CCU chains before ILW, which is really convienient Though I am very much disappointed with the C2's increase, I was really hoping for $60 to $100. And I am so sad I didn't get a chance to get a CCU for the Tonk,I could have gotten $15 savings for just $5, in that price range, the same with Talon CCU. The only remaining Future Flyable in that price range is the Hull B, hopefully I get a CCU for that in IAE2951 before it goes up. Looking at the Roadmap for the Hull B, looks like they have some tasks for it until Mid-Dec, if that doesn't change to an Earlier date, and hopefully CIG doesn't raise the price in IAE before release, I might still be able to get that CCU, hopefully before it goes up. Not so hopeful for the Hull C, thought the Hull C had already risen in price before, so not so sure how much higher it could go up, but my more immediate concern for the Hull C is that in the Roadmap tasks for it, ends in Mid-Oct, unless it gets delayed, it might release in 3.15.x or 3.16, where I might be too late to get the CCU before it goes up, so sad, but that's what I get for being this late in the CCU thingy.
  14. Oh really, I did not expect this. I thought, like in the Carrack ($500) to Hull E ($650) CCU example, that you gave earlier in this thread, that I could still buy the Carrack ($500) to Orion ($575) CCU from buy back. So that means 1. if the From ship has gone up but is still less than the To ship, you could still purchase and apply it, but still at the same price when you melted it, even though the price of the From ship had gone up, which should have reduced the price of the CCU. 2. And that if the From ship has gone up more the the To ship, then you simply cannot buy it back, like your Carrack to Hull E example. 3. But as long as I have the chain of CCUs from a Flight Ready ship all the way to the future flyable ship in my hangar, I could still apply them all in the future, even if either 1 or both ships increase in any amount of price. I have several Crucible ($350) to C2 ($360) and several Endeavor ($350) to C2 ($360) in my hangar, I should then make it my priority to secure all the Starfarer Gemini ($340) to Crucible and Endeavor ($350) CCUs to match the all the C2 CCUs I have in hangar, before either or both the Crucible or the Endeavor increases in price. That is exactly my plan, to play the long game 1. make sure to at least have all the Target ships for each CCU chain in hangar 2. collect future flyables into buy backs, then gradually buy them back, but from the info I gained in this thread, I don't have to buy back so aggressively, and just leave most in buy back hoping their price don't change. 3. Buy Warbond CCUs having good savings like the recent $5 MSR CCU with saving of $30 4. Apply only when CCU chain's Target ship gets released and if I am sure that I still want it. Oh no, I stocked a lot of C2 and M2 last Feb. sale, cause there were not much to put into Buy Back, I hope they do not change. I have 9 x Crucible to C2, 9 x Endeavor to C2, and 14 x 600i to M2, in Buy Back. Are those considered stocked already? Cause if Crucible Prices goes up this ILW I plan to replace the C2 CCUs with Endeavor to C2 CCUs from buy back, and on the the other hand if the Endeavor prices increase in IAE, I plan to replace with Crucible to C2. But if the buy back prices adjusts then probably it would be useless. It so sucks that I just learned all this CCU stuff right after the IAE, I have to wait for ILW and IAE to get everything I want to put into buy back and hangar. now this is a nice workaround, but would also mean too costly to stock that many FROM ships (with enough price gap) to induce a difference change in the CCU buy back. I'll make sure to look at it then. As I have learned SOOO many new things that I did not know about in this 1 thread alone.
  15. @vahadar Thanks very much for all your help, and you even managed to confirm a bug for me to bring up with CIG But I have just some more questions to ask you. I am planning to collect to buy back most if not all available future flyable CCUs that I could get this ILW, Alien Week and IAE, for each of my CCU chains. Now to maximize store credit utilization, I have some CCUs that I plan to buy that is an upgrade from a future flyable ship to another future flyable ship (like an upgrade from a vulcan to a corsair for example), which concerns me. So my question is, 1. lets say I have an old Carrack CCU when it was still worth $500 and also got a CCU from the Carrack ($500) to Orion ($575) CCU which only cost $75, back then. Both CCUs are in my hangar, for example. Could I still apply them both to upgrade to the Carrack and then upgrade to the Orion, even though the Carrack's price is now $600? 2. would the system allow me to do that? The thing is I don't have such CCUs so I could not try it (I only gave that scenario hoping to avoid confusion, since I am so good at asking confusing questions). But how I planned in collecting my CCUs will allow a similar scenario to happen in the future, where I could proceed with or totally avoid, if I know the answer to my questions above before I start collecting said CCUs I hope you or anybody who knows could answer
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