Ship Roles

[Alaris]

What does everyone think? And are there missing ships?

 

Exploration

Trade & Industry

Combat Ops

Ilegal

Multiple

Other

 

Exploration Light:           Aurora ES, Aurora LX, 315p
Exploration Mid-Long:    Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed), Zeus, Carrack, 890 Jump

Light Fighting:                Aurora MR, Aurora LN, 300i, 315p, 325a, F7a Hornet, Avenger, Mustang, Gladius
Medium Fighting:           F7c, Link(bomber), Voids(bomber), Cutlass
Heavy Fighting:             F7c-M Super, Gladiator, Retaliator(bomer)
Stealth:                          F7c-s Ghost
Tracking:                       F7c-r Tracker
Training:                        Avenger Trainer

 

Light Cargo:                 Aurora CL, Aurora LX, 315p, Gladiator, F7c Hornet
Medium Cargo:            Cutlass, Freelancer, Retaliator (30 t), T-XIII

Heavy Cargo:               Constellation, Starfarer, Banu Merchantman, Mover Transport, Tomahawks, Caterpillar

 

Short Range Cargo:    Aurora CL, 315p, Gladiator, F7c Hornet

Mid Range Cargo:       Cutlass, T-XIII, Aurora LX,
Long Range Cargo:     Freelancer, Constellation, Starfarer, Retaliator, Banu Merchantman, Mover Transport, Tomahawks

Scouting:                     Avenger, 325a, 350r, M50, Cutlass, Xi-An Scout, Khartu
Pirates:                        Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Caterpillar
Bounty Hunter:            Avenger, Freelancer, Constellation, Cutlass
Racing:                       350r, M50
Information Runner:    315p, Aurora LX, Avenger, Herald
Search & Rescue:      Starfarer, Cutlass     
Diplomacy:                 Freelancer, Caterpillar, Constellation, Starfarer, Banu

 

Boarding:                   Crawler, Caterpillar
Salvage:                     315p, Cutlass, Gladiator(10t), Retaliator, Starfarer(72t), Surveyor
Smuggling:                Caterpillar, Freelancer, Constellation, Cutlass, Hull C
Passanger/Taxi:         Freelancer, Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed), 890 Jump
Resources:                Starfarer(gas), Harvester Carrier(all), Surveyor(salvage), Orion(mining), Harvester(mining), Spider-shaped industrial- 

                                   -mining tool

 

Colinization:             Artemis

Living Quarters:        Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed)

Support Fleet:          Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator, Starfarer, Vanduul Scythe, P-52 Merlin, Panther Escort Carrier, Escort carrier
Fleet Ships:              Idris, Idris-p, Javelin Destroyer, Bengal Class Carrier, Escort Carrier, Kingship, Hunter Destroyer, Xi’An Oracle Class Carrier,

                                 Destroyer(Biggest purchasable ship in the game), Mauler Cruiser

MultiFunction:          Constellation,

 

No idea: Buccaneer, Torch, X-7, Fiera, Cestus, Cruiser, Raider, Dropship, Utility Ship

 

 

*updated

 

*List below donated by Valenquo, only ships used from ship stats page on RSI website.

 

10 to 25 meters:      The fighters. (one or two pilots, versatile, often adaptable) Fighter Class

                               Includes all variants: Aurora Series, 300 Series, m50, Hornet Series, Avenger, Vanduul Scythe, Gladiator, p-52 Merlin, Herald,

                                                               : Mustang, Qhire Khartu-al

 

29 to 50 meters:      The small ships (Freelancer and Cutlass - Small enough to 1-2 crew but large enough for advanced operations) Small Ship Class

                                 : Cutlass, Freelancer,

 

55 to 80 meters:      The multi-role ships (great for small crews and general mission platforms - the flag ship of most group) Medium Ship Class

                                 :Caterpillar, Retaliator, Constellation, 890 Jump, Carrack, Orion, Surveyor

 

90 to 225 meters:    The Haulers ( small crew, lots of value transported) Large Ship Class

                                  :starfarer, Hull C, Merchantman,

 

240 meters and up: The Capital ships (large crew, lots of offence and defense, heavy in logistics) Capital Ship Class

                                    :Idris,

Edited June 20, 2014 by Alaris

[VoA]

It is a decent list but it is missing the newer ships like the Gladius and Mustang.  It is also missing some of the Alien ships that players can actually use like the Vanduul Scythe, Banu MM and Xi-An Scout.  Keep in mind that each ship can be outfitted (with Upgrade Slots) for various roles.  Also things are missing and somewhat subjective (like all lists like this are) --- An example would be an Avenger could be an excellent Passanger / Taxi or even Smuggling ship with its cryro beds.  It is also missing other important roles like Bounty Hunting, Information Running / Racing, etc...

[Alaris]

Very true the upgrade will change things, I simply like the first look at each ship.

 

Meaning right now this ship is set for these roles, which can help make desicions on how to play a ship without expensive upgrades. But ya I believe I might take on this project and keep udating it as newer ships come out, I think that the video I got this from may have been a year old. *I completely forogt about raceing too

[Eternity]

I watched a youtube video, and it had this great spread sheet in it, so I pauses the video and copied the info.  What does everyone think? And are there missing ships?

 

Exploration Light:           Aurora, Aurora LX, 315p, Freelancer, Constellation

Exploration Mid-Long:    Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed)

Light Fighting:                Aurora LE, 325a, 300i, Hornet

Heavy Fighting:              Cutlass, Gladiator, Retaliator

Light Cargo:                   Aurora LE, Aurora LX, 315p, Cutlass, Gladiator, Freelancer

Medium Cargo:              Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Starfarer Retaliator (30 t)

Long Range Cargo:       Freelancer, Constellation, Starfarer

Scouting:                       Avenger, 325a, 350r, M50, Cutlass

Pirates:                          Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation

Salvage:                        315p, Cutlass, Gladiator(10t), Retaliator, Starfarer(72t)

Smuggling:                    Cat, Freelancer, Constellation, Cutlass

Passanger/Taxi:            Freelancer, Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed)

Resources:                   ???

Living Quarters:            Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed)

Support Fleet:               Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator, Starfarer

Fleet Ships:                  Idris, Destroyer, Bengal Class Carrier, Escort Carrier

 

Some Proffesions not listed Bounty Hunter, Search & Rescue, and Diplomacy.

Well done, I like it!

[Alaris]

Thanks @ I updated it

[hammer]

starfarer may be a major source of resources (gas) as it is one of the ones that can gather large amounts of raw gas and then refine it (modules that you can buy)

[Alaris]

Thanks @hammer I updated the list. Where did you find out about the gas resource?

 

Also am I missing any ship types? and or ship roles?

[Alaris]

Ok went to wiki and updated a bunch of ships, I think I have them all now so let me know if i missed any

[hammer]

uhm. i heard it from several sources. i know for a fact that most of the ships have an upgrade slot for them to gather gas. they just need a second slot for refining it into fuel or at least that is my understanding. from browsing the forums i also learned that they are the only (check if im wrong here) ship that can refuel another out in space. which sort of makes them a moving fuel producing tanker. that special ability would naturally make them a major source of emergency fuel and a good ship to have for any long haul.

 

edit: okay i think that the first think i said about most ships being able to gather gas is not true. after checking the wiki i have confirmed that they are the only "real" mid flight fueling option and that they are a much safer way to transport fuel

[Alaris]

uhm. i heard it from several sources. i know for a fact that most of the ships have an upgrade slot for them to gather gas. they just need a second slot for refining it into fuel or at least that is my understanding. from browsing the forums i also learned that they are the only (check if im wrong here) ship that can refuel another out in space. which sort of makes them a moving fuel producing tanker. that special ability would naturally make them a major source of emergency fuel and a good ship to have for any long haul.

 

edit: okay i think that the first think i said about most ships being able to gather gas is not true. after checking the wiki i have confirmed that they are the only "real" mid flight fueling option and that they are a much safer way to transport fuel

 

Interesting, well we will see how the flight works just as soon as the dfm comes out, I'm going to be checking how well the drift option is because as a Logistics person, if you can get up to speed and then "drift" to your location that will make a huge impact on fuel usage.

[stefmarster]

I have to agree on the SAR ships.... in my squad we have been doing alot of talking about good ships for SAR ops.... and those 2 are some of them and then we are thinking like the cutlass as well

[xenoshaft]

What does everyone think? And are there missing ships?

 

Exploration Light:           Aurora ES, Aurora LX, 315p, Freelancer, Constellation  

I'm not sure why the Freelancer and the constellation would fit in to both categories simultaneously, and IM not sure if they would fit as "lights" they would need to be medium class if not just mid-long range.

Exploration Mid-Long:    Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed), Zeus, Carrack, 890 Jump

Light Fighting:                Aurora MR, Aurora LN, 300i, 325a, F7a Hornet, Avenger, Mustang, Gladius

Medium Fighting:           F7c, Link(bomber), Voids(bomber)

Heavy Fighting:             F7c-M Super, Cutlass, Gladiator, Retaliator(bomer)

I'm not sure if I would fit the cutlass here, I agree it is a good fighter, but the freelancer out guns it in a standing fight. The cutlass is designed for a sneak attack/fast all weapons front attack along with super maneuverability. It seems to lend it self well to bounty hunting and piracy, where the maneuverability would allow for boarding actions of larger ships. Though it does stack well vs a hornet. I wonder if it would be worth exploring breaking the ships down by specialty first then by uses rather than the other way around. Good things so far. 

Stealth:                          F7c-s Ghost

Tracking:                       F7c-r Tracker

Training:                        Avenger Trainer

Light Cargo:                 Aurora CL, Aurora LX,  315p, Cutlass, Gladiator, Freelancer 

Again I don't know that the freelancer and cutlass are both medium and light cargo at the same time. Long range cargo seems to be an off category here.

Medium Cargo:            Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Starfarer, Retaliator (30 t), T-XIII

Long Range Cargo:     Freelancer, Constellation, Starfarer, Banu Merchantman, Mover Transport, Tomahawks

Scouting:                     Avenger, 325a, 350r, M50, Cutlass, Xi-An Scout, Khartu

Pirates:                        Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Caterpillar

Bounty Hunter:            Avenger, Freelancer, Constellation, Cutlass

Racing:                       350r, M50

Information Runner:    315p, Aurora LX, Avenger, Herald

Search & Rescue:      Starfarer, Cutlass     

Diplomacy:                 Freelancer, Caterpillar, Constellation, Starfarer

 

Boarding:                   Crawler

Salvage:                     315p, Cutlass, Gladiator(10t), Retaliator, Starfarer(72t)

Smuggling:                Caterpillar, Freelancer, Constellation, Cutlass, Hull C

Passanger/Taxi:         Freelancer, Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed), 890 Jump

Resources:                Starfarer(gas), Harvester Carrier(all), Surveyor(salvage), Orion(mining), Harvester(mining), Spider-shaped industrial- 

                                   -mining tool

 

Colinization:             Artemis

Living Quarters:        Cutlass, Freelancer, Constellation, Retaliator (mod needed)

Support Fleet:          Cutlass, Constellation, Retaliator, Starfarer, Vanduul Scythe, P-52 Merlin, Panther Escort Carrier, Escort carrier

Fleet Ships:              Idris, Idris-p, Javelin Destroyer, Bengal Class Carrier, Escort Carrier, Kingship, Hunter Destroyer, Xi’An Oracle Class Carrier,

                                 Destroyer(Biggest purchasable ship in the game), Mauler Cruiser

MultiFunction:          Constellation,

 

No idea: Buccaneer, Torch, X-7, Fiera, Cestus, Cruiser, Raider, Dropship, Utility Ship

 

 

*updated

 

 

I think the list looks really good-- Questions and edits inline. The more I read through this the more I think the data points would be presented better as a "role then attribute" lay out- rather than attribute then role. And rather than being so specific you could zoom out a bit, so  a single role might fit several play styles. IE(example only!) Marauder might have bounty hunting, piracy, boarding, troop transport type of ships associated with it. Or Freighter that would encompass things like Cargo ships, long range explorers, and support ships.  Im sure we can come up with much more descriptive names than marauder and freighter but again just examples.

Think more like ship classes, where the ships in that class can perform different roles but the class as a whole and share a specialty. In any case this is looking really good and most of my comments/questions are just style points and clarification. Cool conversation let me know what you think..

 EDIT - One last thing- I think it might also work well to go with a class system as you might find the same class of ship in every profession the clan offers-- So by going with class first it would lend it self better to folks trying to find a ship to fill a role-- were they are able to look at role, then see -- in role X the cargo ships is-- or the escort ship is-- As each profession will have to dabble in other roles as well.

 

 

  -Xeno

 

Edited June 1, 2014 by xenoshaft

[Alaris]

 EDIT - One last thing- I think it might also work well to go with a class system as you might find the same class of ship in every profession the clan offers-- So by going with class first it would lend it self better to folks trying to find a ship to fill a role-- were they are able to look at role, then see -- in role X the cargo ships is-- or the escort ship is-- As each profession will have to dabble in other roles as well.

 

 

  -Xeno

 

 

Thanks for the feedback, I really liked your comments and edited the list. I agree it was redundant to have constelations/ freelancers in both categories, my thinking was since it can do large then it can do the ones below it medium and small, and to make a "ship roles for dummies" guide I put them in all categories, but ya I like the short version, I also quickly made a short/med/long range cargo section so it's not an off category anymore. *along with a heavy cargo

 

As for the roles I know that using upgrade slots you could make any ship fit almost any role, like adding fuel pods to an Avenger to make it travel long distances for cargo. But I wanted to make this list for; what can this ship do right out of the gates, no mods needed.

[Metaru Mashin]

Hi, the Aegis Dynemics Surveyor is not in the Salvage list, "The Aegis Surveyor is an industrial salvage ship. Equipped with a reinforced cargo bay, a long-range jump drive and launch pods for unmanned drones, the Surveyor is an ideal ship for taking advantage of deep space wrecks. Tractor beams, floodlights, scanner options and docking ports round out the tools on this capable, utilitarian spacecraft." that is it's description (I really want one )

Also the Banu Merchantman is the only ship that I have see with a "negotiation room" so it will fit on the "diplomacy" category

[Styrupp]

Suggests that you include Caterpillar to the list that compiles the size regarding cargo space: Light-Heavy Cargo. as other "Smuggling" ships are included in the list.

Otherwise I think the list is a very good reference.

 

Sincerely Styrupp

[Alaris]

Thanks @Metaru Mashin  and @Styrupp   list updated.

[Kylar_Stern]

Great list, and by the looks of it the 315p is definitely one of the lower budget ways to go. Shouldn't it also fall under light fighting? It is just as combat ready as the 300i.

[Alaris]

@Kylar_Stern good point.

 

I know I'm loving the 325a in Arena Commander, it just has the most view out of the three ships. ie the cockpit window space is the largest,

[Valenquo]

I've been looking at ship sizes to get an idea of their potential and to make a simple categorization . The classification would be based on their signature \ size.

 

10 to 25 meters:      The fighters. (one or two pilots, versatile, often adaptable) Spacecraft class

 

29 to 50 meters:      The small ships (Freelancer and Cutlass - Small enough to 1-2 crew but large enough for advanced operations) Small Ship Class

 

55 to 80 meters:      The multi-role ships (great for small crews and general mission platforms - the flag ship of most group) Medium Ship Class

 

90 to 225 meters:    The Haulers ( small crew, lots of value transported) Large Ship Class

 

240 meters and up: The Capital ships (large crew, lots of offence and defense, heavy in logistics) Capital Ship Class

[Alaris]

@Valenquo Love it, Added to list   and I added ships that go into those brackets so everyone can get a clear idea what ships fall under what.

[Valenquo]

Thanks @Alaris, and you are right. Fighter Class sounds better.

 

I was just trying to do the distinction between spacecraft (no crew)  and spaceship (with crew), but I guess as a class name it doesn't work that well.

[xenoshaft]

Hi again!

 

I love the updates-- It's looking good. As I was looking at it was thinking about the fullness of the detail, but it was getting a little busy for my eyes / mind to quickly grab data as a whole vs. finding a specific thing I need. I was thinking this level of detail might lend it self well to a eye chart. Something you can see the high-level at a glance and then look closer to the fine detail. If you would like, I can grab your data and put it in to an eye chart of some kind and we can tweak it from there.  What do you think?

 

 

thanks,

-xeno

[Alaris]

@xenoshaft Sounds great

 

I agree, I think were past the gathering of info, now we just need to make it easier to read, well of course until they come out with more ships (we can hope )

[Togerah]

Doesnt the Caterpillar also fall under boarding? I thought that was one of the roles it was made to fit

[Alaris]

I did some googling, lo and behold:

 

 

Drake maintains that the Caterpillar, a sprawling, modular spacecraft which appears at least somewhat like its namesake, is for legitimate commerce and extended search and rescue missions… but at the end of the day, the Caterpillar is truly the evil twin of the Freelancer. Designed for supporting pirate operations, the Caterpillar features a large cargo hold for carrying loot, heavier armor than other freighters in its class and room for five crew able to serve in boarding operations. Despite its heavier armor, the Caterpillar isn’t a bulldog… a succesful operation will require a fighter escort.

 

So thanks @Togerah  for the find