Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 There is little reason for Putin NOT to invade the rest of Ukraine. I still have family there and am trying to get them out from here. Please pray for them, or if you have friends in Poland or Hungary please let me know. I hope I posted this in the correct section! God bless us all. Battlewulf Venku Skirata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimaera Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Already have been, m8. Best to you and your family... Venku Skirata and Battlewulf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks, wish we could reason with Putin, but there is no reasoning with a dictator. Venku Skirata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BravoTwoZero Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 If they are not in the East or Crimea and not in the military, they will be ok. Problem of Ukraine is that neither the US or Europa care that much since no alliances exist, and on their own they are screwed. Putin knows how much he can pull off and get away with. A full occupation of Ukraine will be out of the question, occupying the Eastern regions of Ukraine will generate a lot of resistance towards Russia, while only Crimea seems acceptable so far with no bullets fired. Battlewulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venku Skirata Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Totally will man we don't want another world war, right Russia? Battlewulf and Genesis 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Yes we do not want war, but how would you feel if one day you woke up and there was another nations flag flying over your city and there were armed troops in your streets? Venku Skirata 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Theseus Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I hope that there will not be war, but the people of eastern Ukraine should make a vote about to join Russia or stay in the Ukraine...im mine opinion its there right to live where they want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnutt Arkonikus Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 How I see now on tv, in Ukraina is a military mobilization and the situation its already geting hot! I really hope there will not escalate into a open civil war just like in bosnia and croatia in the early 90" I know very well how war can be mesed up and chaotic and like awery war there is some political power centers who make all that chaos posible ,just like in bosnia/croatia/serbia civil war in the past! Im not religious person but I wish that all will setle down and the peace will rain again! Theseus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korpir Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Just a heads up: We are an international org, with lots of different views. This event is in my opinion important and we should be able to talk about it. But please please keep it civil so we don't have to clamp down on it. Auzten 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 There has been nothing uncivil that I know of. If I have done something wrong please forgive me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Korpir Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 NO NO, for gods sake. I didn't mean to imply that you had done anything wrong. It's just people might feel strongly regarding topics like this and I just wanted to put a note in early so people think before they post Theseus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallhart Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Indeed, politics is a sensitive subject, more so with the anonymity that the internet provides. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Byronyk Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 @Korpir I have a coworker who is from Uzbekistan and very much an ethnic Russian. Whenever the Ukrainian topic is discussed during lunch, it always turns into a heater argument so I completely understand your reasoning. @Battlewulf I sincerely hope your family is safe in the coming days. Hopefully most of what is being said is just political posturing and nothing more. Battlewulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Ok, good. I did not want to do anything but to ask for those who have faith to pray for Ukraine because I know history, lived there, and have family there through marriage. This is not politics, and has gone beyond that and into what most likely will be war, which of course we all know is what happens when politics fail. I love everybody. You guys have been great to me, and I am happy to be a part of this group and the Imperium. May I am venting because I feel helpless because I am in the People Republic of California and too far away to help. Battlewulf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazil Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Battlewulf, I'm praying for your family, friends, and countrymen. The whole situation is difficult and complicated. Unfortunately I personally feel my country (U.S.A.) has lost allot of political clout in the last 15-20 years and may not be much assistance. Lets hope this can be solved with Diplomats and not soldiers. Battlewulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 I live here too, and I am in one of the worst states as well, (except for the weather). I too feel the same. God help us all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azza1991 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Im sure the EU will step in at some point to mediate all this for the better, even if they are usually slow on the uptake of stuff like this. Good old baroness Ashton!! Its within our interests to keep peace in Europe and if fundamentally what the EU is all about. However i do realise that Russia do have and interest in this situation but it all seems very heavy handed in very suspicious way IMO. So long as Ukraine don't go and do something stupid to provoke Russian im sure its all just a storm in a tea cup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 They can be very suborn, and the fact that the Russians killed almost 11 million Ukrainians (1932-33) in one year still makes them mad at then still to this day. Remember, they fought till 1956 against them in the mountains after WW2 only stopping after the west failed to support the Hungarian uprising in '56. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azza1991 Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Well lets not get political, and that was over 50 years ago now. Like i said all probably just a storm in a tea cup between extremists and the stubborn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zhane Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I'm going to set politics aside for just a moment and say I've been following the images to come out of the protests for the last few weeks and many of them are truly striking. This one in particular caught my attention... Seriously, that is an amazing image that captures a lot of what is happening over there. Any Hollywood director would be jealous of that kind of imagery, it's stunning. Genesis, Auzten, Venku Skirata and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Agreed, that is a stunning image of the bravery of youth. History is fact, so long as it is true, there are no politics only truth or lies with history. Auzten and Venku Skirata 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hudute Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 Hey Battlewulf I will pray for your family. I hope this conflict will not end in a war but as it looks right now I have the fear it may. However I have a friend in poland (hevent heard of him in a while), living in the cracow area, I can not give you any confirmation on if he will be able to help as he is in a bad situation himself, but if you want i can contact him via email to see if he is responding. Venku Skirata and Battlewulf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Battlewulf Posted March 2, 2014 Author Share Posted March 2, 2014 Thanks, if it comes to that I will let you know You are a great man, and a great Icarus pilot and crew as well! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rotorax Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I heard the news on my way back home. I guess it was only a matter of time for Putin to find a reason to actually use his army and stretch some muscles at the expense of another country. I agree with Battlewulf, he is typical dictator. There is a lot at stake here, not only Ukraine and Russia future and reputation, but also the stability of the whole EU continent. I was saying it from the beginning, just let Ukraine deal with their internal problems, enough of bloodshed. I hope they realize what might be the possible outcome of this and just go home. We don´t need this. azza1991 and Battlewulf 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Generalen Posted March 2, 2014 Share Posted March 2, 2014 I have several friends in Ukraine, Kiev and other cities on the "West"-friendly part of Ukraine. They are working tirelessly to help and support the new regime. As for the subject of Crimea crisis that is developing now, I am torn myself seeing how much Russian nationals actually live there and they used to own it too. Of course the Russian military aggression is very much unwanted and seen upon as a violation of Ukraine sovereignty, I think that too. The most important thing for the new regime to do is to gain control of the situation where they can and act passively/diplomatic towards the new Crimean crisis as long as they feel it possible. An all out conflict with the Russians/Crimeans would be an ignition for civil war for sure. Battlewulf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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