GRIZZ Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Dude deleted the image, heres a copy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 What is interesting is other people already show the Carrack at 155.6m - and it is obviously pulled from a CIG asset - so maybe this actually happened awhile ago --- which could mean that the Carrack has been undergoing a popular demand ------ STEALTH development ------- it was taken off the roadmap as well awhile ago - and without anything being said. I this this all portends to a possible flyable RELEASE for Citizencon (or maybe Anniversary - or Holiday sale) as a surprise along with the Kraken (Relevant timestamp linked) +++ Devil Khan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Khan Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Yeah they had already said it was larger when they were going concept. They had already said it was 155m. Btw here is the timestamp about the ship. To be honest, the only ship it should have a bigger size is the crucible. It is only on the actual "dock station" for fighters have the "land" would be nicer for it to take medium ships like the freelancer or the cutlass. Anyway, like @VoA said the size increase was given from the 2017 Anniversary were he said the ship size increased by 30m+ which would be 153.5m+ Danakar Endeel and VoA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 See - other's are speculating the same thing From Reddit - r/starcitizen•Posted by u/ForbidDaraki 2 hours ago DISCUSSION [Theory] The Carrack is done, and it's the surprise for tomorrow. Why would we see so much of it last year? See the entire grey box essentially and it's not in the pipeline? At all? Are you sure? We have also suddenly received a concierge package with The Carrack and most other ships in the game already, if not soon. My theory is that it's a secret 3.3.X patch to be released after Citcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Khan Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 BS, my theory is whole thing (livestream) will be delayed ... again We didn't so much of it last year except 1 AtV. Also "suddenly" being several weeks/months ago. It is in an explorer pack. Also it was brought out for the release of the 600i. LowZone 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 9.30m Carrack is back in production again... and it grew in size by 40%... but then they shrunk it a bit 😎 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GRIZZ Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I'll take only a 10% gain. I never knew it had a medbay, I wonder if it has respawn capability or is that reserved for the Endevor Hope? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 46 minutes ago, GRIZZ said: I'll take only a 10% gain. I never knew it had a medbay, I wonder if it has respawn capability or is that reserved for the Endevor Hope? My understanding is the only respawn medical bays are on the Apollo and Endeavor.... not on ships like the Carrack or Idris even though they have their own medbays it's not the same kind or capability unless that has recently changed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danakar Endeel Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Some images taken from the AtV: https://imgur.com/gallery/3r39TI2 Not too keen on the back. Seems that in order to reduce length they just cut out the middle section of the thrusters and then crammed it back together. But then again the whole model just seems like a mockup that's been roughly cut&pasted together (also notice how the pods don't align properly and sit too far back). Original concept: VoA and GRIZZ 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 8 hours ago, VoA said: My understanding is the only respawn medical bays are on the Apollo and Endeavor.... not on ships like the Carrack or Idris even though they have their own medbays it's not the same kind or capability unless that has recently changed Respawn is dependent upon having Class 1 medbays. Which, for ships, only the Apollo and Endeavour have as far as we know. VoA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memoriam Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Do we know the class of the Carrack medbays? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 39 minutes ago, Memoriam said: Do we know the class of the Carrack medbays? We don't know but likely class 3... with upgrade options to class 2.... with no likelihood of an option to upgrade to class 1 (Class 1 likely restricted to Apollo and Endeavor Hope) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 I would hope, because the Carrack is a long-term "self-sustaining" exploration ship, that it would have at least Class 2. Danakar Endeel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memoriam Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Well I hope for an initial level2 and an possible upgrade to lvl 1 (but it (the upgrade) should be expensive in UEC for balancing and the bed should be slower than the beds of the medevac and endevour) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danakar Endeel Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 12 minutes ago, Gremlich said: I would hope, because the Carrack is a long-term "self-sustaining" exploration ship, that it would have at least Class 2. Agreed. A Class 3 is just a glorified bandaid applicator and completely useless for a deep space explorer that can't call on anyone for help 99% of the time. So it definitely needs something better than that. At least a Class 2 or a Class 1 without the respawn option. Gremlich 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Khan Posted November 24, 2018 Share Posted November 24, 2018 Ok so confusing class 2 .... it's Teir 3-1. It is a spawn point, Carrack, Idris, Endeavor Hope, Apollo also the Javelan There is no working spawn system, it just haven't got it working. Carrack has the smaller med room compared to Idris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 25, 2018 Share Posted November 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Devil Khan said: Carrack has the smaller med room compared to Idris. Because MUCH smaller crew. Like Serenity... Danakar Endeel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxzer Jaxzon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Oh wow, I cant say im happy with the changes even if id like to be considering its finally in production But having it 40% larger then the original design and then scaled down again to only being 10m longer then the original design "8%" (See pic of original design and size comparison below) is kind of a let down for me, aswell as it being 7m wider making it pretty wide compared to length Also the way they shrank it felt cheap, instead of keeping the old concept they had to make the mid section of the ship longer to fit all the interior (hence the 40% increase) but instead decided they could get it back in orignal size again by cutting the engine by 60% making the entire ships design look extremly bulky and weird. CIG you had ONE job, there is no cheap way when you work with the most anticipated ship in the game.... sharpen up!! Not making matter better by not giving us a real excuse (possibly hidden from us) for why they shrank it, what they said is that it was to big for a 6 man crew ship. If thats the case how come the luxury yatch 890 Jump who has a crew of 3 and max 5 is nearly 185m long now.... thats 50% larger then the current carrack for a smaller crew ship. But you know we gotta fit that swimming pool, surely that is a better argument to keep its size vs carrack having a big engine, I mean why would it need that as a long ranged explorer? 🤦♂️ (not saying the 890 jump should be smaller) im saying the carracks size was justified for being bigger then the original, being named after one of the largest classes of ships in the 14th century. Pardon my rant my dear fellow Carrack lovers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxzer Jaxzon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 They started a thread for this 3 days ago, alot of ppl arent happy with the changes. Wether you like them or not you should make your voice heard cause now is the chance to change it before they go into exterior detailed work (as that is the next job now when the interior layout is finally finished) https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/65293/thread/disfigured-carrack Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brightmist Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Carrack got some Gladiator orbs 🤣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Devil Khan Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 10 meters long from the original design. everything they had showed us internally they scaled down to fit the externally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxzer Jaxzon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Its the same as before they started they said, maybe 10m longer (but that is with 15m shorter engine give or take) so 15m larger in the other proportions. The cargo modules looks alooooot bigger now to compared to the older designs where they were not as visible. Marked a timer (also you can also almost see on Jareds face that he is thinking at that moment, I wonder what the community will say now) XD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Memoriam Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 Have you noticed the new Cockpit. Looks like the field of view will be better than anticipated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Foxzer Jaxzon Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I did much prefer the larger 153-170m carrack though, I think we also might have lost a turret on that used to be in on the cargo module. I made a picture where you can compare the older large greybox (scaled up version). VS the new one below. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefWarrant Posted November 27, 2018 Share Posted November 27, 2018 I mentioned this on Spectrum so I'd thought I'd echo it here..... Is is just me, or am I seeing lots of struts like the Connie? I understand that it will have an almost half spherical view from the seat, but unless the struts are transparent, all I see is the Andromeda cockpit, just larger. 😕 mehhhhh my be sacrilege to say, but screw it. I may just go to the 600 explorer for the view and solo play. I'll just man one of yours for the deeper travels. Foxzer Jaxzon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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