VoA Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 Skip to end to see final image... Kemalis, Darius Marx, GeraldEvans and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sky Captain Posted October 18, 2015 Share Posted October 18, 2015 (edited) Also looking forward to hearing more information about the Carrack pods. Lots of potential there.I am hopeful that the Carrack makes a great archaeological ship, beyond jump point exploration, etc.Oh, and cool video, VoA. That was a lot of work to get that image.Lastly, lovin the new signature, CC-Corp. The Endeavor makes for a good background. Edited October 18, 2015 by Dawgstar VoA, wfja, Sparkie and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minted Posted October 19, 2015 Share Posted October 19, 2015 Also looking forward to hearing more information about the Carrack pods. Lots of potential there.I am hopeful that the Carrack makes a great archaeological ship, beyond jump point exploration, etc.Oh, and cool video, VoA. That was a lot of work to get that image.Lastly, lovin the new signature, CC-Corp. The Endeavor makes for a good background.Well it certainly has the right features on paper. It can land but also has a smaller scout ship for you to use. It also has a rover to explore the surface of a planet and a decent cargo hold.This type of feature though would probably be implemented later down the line with manual planetary landing and exploration. wfja and Sparkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 runebinder, Kemalis, Sparkie and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfja Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 @VoA Where do you find all this fantastic concept art? I also saw some Sabre and Gladius stuff you posted and I gotta know. They're all fantastic. Kemalis and Sparkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 @VoA Where do you find all this fantastic concept art? I also saw some Sabre and Gladius stuff you posted and I gotta know. They're all fantastic. I just do periodic searches on RSI Forums, Google, You-Tube, Reddit, ArtStation, etc... I think the fans are doing a great job promoting Star Citizen and I like to share it to get others excited Riley Egret, Payens, wfja and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DirtDiver2Nine Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I love to see a Gunship/troop transport Carrack with guns allllllll over it!!! that would be amazing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boats Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 I think a Carrack teamed up with Starfarer Gemini and maybe a small exploration ship to go through small jump points would make great exploration team. Boats Sparkie and GeraldEvans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 Especially since the Carrack can hold a small exploration ship... Sparkie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted October 23, 2015 Share Posted October 23, 2015 This may have been discussed before, but...What are the chances that the Carrack will have a C&C or E-War variant? It certainly has the computing power and utilities for both, considering its sensors require them. So is that a natural extension?Hope not. GeraldEvans and Sparkie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfja Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Hope not.Why's that? It wouldn't make it any less of an explorer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minted Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 (edited) I'm not sure if we will see variants of not. Its an exploration ship with modular sections so you might be able to modify it to suit your needs.A lot of people seem to want to turn these things, 890 included, into some kind of corvette military ship. I really hope CIG doesn't go down this route and gives us a stand alone corvette. Edited October 24, 2015 by Minted ChiefWarrant and GeraldEvans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 Exactly this. Not everything is a Q ship, not everything is a pocket carrier, not everything should be turned into a machine for war. DASKOMMTDAWEG and ChiefWarrant 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wfja Posted October 24, 2015 Share Posted October 24, 2015 I agree. While modularity is fantastic, not every ship is meant to do everything. And yeah, there seems to be an obsession with pocket carriers and budget capital ships... if people want one, wait and throw some money at one when it's concepted.Modules for the Carrack will likely allow it to be somewhat versatile and, with new developments since I posted that comment, it shouldn't have variants. That said, I hope its modularity allows it to adopt a C&C role. I'd like to coordinate an exploration convoy with mine, seems like a lot of fun. GeraldEvans, Pagan-Tempest, ChiefWarrant and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ValandiI Posted October 25, 2015 Share Posted October 25, 2015 I agree. While modularity is fantastic, not every ship is meant to do everything. And yeah, there seems to be an obsession with pocket carriers and budget capital ships... if people want one, wait and throw some money at one when it's concepted.Modules for the Carrack will likely allow it to be somewhat versatile and, with new developments since I posted that comment, it shouldn't have variants. That said, I hope its modularity allows it to adopt a C&C role. I'd like to coordinate an exploration convoy with mine, seems like a lot of fun.what he said. wfja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Ben just said on RTV that Gurmack's next task (now that the P72 is done) is jump back onto the Carrack to do the interiors. They plan to do another white-box (but more detailed) video like Randy (CIG) did with the Caterpillar and Crucible Pagan-Tempest, wfja and GeraldEvans 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted November 20, 2015 Share Posted November 20, 2015 Woot!!! ChiefWarrant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pagan-Tempest Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 On 10/24/2015 1:23:32, wfja said: I agree. While modularity is fantastic, not every ship is meant to do everything. And yeah, there seems to be an obsession with pocket carriers and budget capital ships... if people want one, wait and throw some money at one when it's concepted. Modules for the Carrack will likely allow it to be somewhat versatile and, with new developments since I posted that comment, it shouldn't have variants. That said, I hope its modularity allows it to adopt a C&C role. I'd like to coordinate an exploration convoy with mine, seems like a lot of fun. Agreed. wfja 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J-Mac Posted November 27, 2015 Share Posted November 27, 2015 I'm excited to see mine when it goes hangar ready. I have the Aquila but I expect that this will be much more capable. ChiefWarrant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 On 10/24/2015, 2:56:12, wfja said: Why's that? It wouldn't make it any less of an explorer. But it would. For one thing, it's too f-ing big. To be fair, it as a C&C variant, you don't need any other equipment, but it'd be a waste of the technology when you can use a Tracker or Vanguard to do it for less OR a Javelin or Idris if you have one (with a tracker). It doesn't have the speed to be a jammer. In one of my RL jobs, if you were a jammer, your life expectancy was rather short - measured in seconds once you turned your shit on. Besides, with e-war missiles (data spike for instance), you don't need a 123m long ship doing that job. Truth be told, if you are in Imperium, you won't find a Carrack being used for either of those two roles. If you aren't in Imperium, stick with a Tracker for C&C and a Vanguard Sentinel for E-War Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmick Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 I'm very excited by the Carrack. I'm looking forward to just exploring the universe, but I'm keen to see what kind of flexibility CIG will give us. The three large modules gives plenty of room to play with. I'm very curious to see how the rover will play out. There's just so much open space that the Carrack gives us to utilize. Do we have an idea for the dimensions of the rover bay? Given CIG's "if it fits it sits" attitude to space, could we replace the rover with a secondary scout ship? Add more cargo? Fit large alien artifacts? GeraldEvans and wfja 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 17 hours ago, kosmick said: I'm very excited by the Carrack. I'm looking forward to just exploring the universe, but I'm keen to see what kind of flexibility CIG will give us. The three large modules gives plenty of room to play with. I'm very curious to see how the rover will play out. There's just so much open space that the Carrack gives us to utilize. Do we have an idea for the dimensions of the rover bay? Given CIG's "if it fits it sits" attitude to space, could we replace the rover with a secondary scout ship? Add more cargo? Fit large alien artifacts? it has drones, a scout ship and a rover, none of which I want more of or less of. the pods under the vessel could contain specific equipment for archeology, oceanography, etc. That or just mission-related cargo - provisions, water, ammunition (if needed), depends, spare parts (long range explorer, eh!), etc.... Sparkie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmick Posted November 28, 2015 Share Posted November 28, 2015 27 minutes ago, Gremlich said: it has drones, a scout ship and a rover, none of which I want more of or less of. the pods under the vessel could contain specific equipment for archeology, oceanography, etc. That or just mission-related cargo - provisions, water, ammunition (if needed), depends, spare parts (long range explorer, eh!), etc.... Right, but mission specific configurations would be nice. We don't know anything about the drones, weather they can be offensive, defensive, exploration, etc. I could see exploration missions where it may be preferable to have a second scout ship instead of a rover, or perhaps a large bay to allow for a second rover instead of extra provisions, water, or what not. Given that this vessel is supposed to be self sufficient, I wonder how the repair bay will work, can it repair both the rover and the scout? Will it be able to do some patch work repairs if when you're out in the void you come under attack by Vandul or pirates? Of course the base description given to us sounds very solid, but flexibility is always nice to help expand mission capability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gremlich Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 5 hours ago, kosmick said: Right, but mission specific configurations would be nice. We don't know anything about the drones, weather they can be offensive, defensive, exploration, etc. I could see exploration missions where it may be preferable to have a second scout ship instead of a rover, or perhaps a large bay to allow for a second rover instead of extra provisions, water, or what not. Given that this vessel is supposed to be self sufficient, I wonder how the repair bay will work, can it repair both the rover and the scout? Will it be able to do some patch work repairs if when you're out in the void you come under attack by Vandul or pirates? Of course the base description given to us sounds very solid, but flexibility is always nice to help expand mission capability. Flexibility beyond what it needs to do beyond Exploration is something, I, personally, don't think it needs. Tailor to the specific mission? The Carrack is intended to go into the unknown, not the known - that's when you can theory craft needing two scout ships, etc. For a first time mission into an unknown sector, it requires both the rover, the scout ship and the drones (which will obviously be, because the carrack is an exploration vessel, sensor drones vice anything offensive or defensive - the latter two would be game changers that are unneeded in SC because how many people are going to want offensive drones? Most everybody.). The repair functionality will probably be sufficient to get the rover back to the ship (please guys, it's their Truck/Land Rover/Jeep), but, who knows what CIG will come up with. The Carrack can function as a C2C vessel without any modifications - because the exploration suite will do lesser functioning easily. E-war variant? Lame because it's a waste of a ship. And I'd like to point out, no one ship in SC will be able to do everything people can imagine. There is no "that one" ship. A Freelancer DUR will be able to function as a C2C vessel just as well, for much less. But, it's range might not match that of a Carrack. Imperium doesn't need it's Carracks playing C2C, that's what an Idris is for. Or the Corvette. Smaller orgs can use the Vanguard Sentinel or a F7 Tracker, medium sized orgs should use a Connie Phoenix/Andromeda or a DUR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kosmick Posted November 29, 2015 Share Posted November 29, 2015 38 minutes ago, Gremlich said: Flexibility beyond what it needs to do beyond Exploration is something, I, personally, don't think it needs. Tailor to the specific mission? The Carrack is intended to go into the unknown, not the known - that's when you can theory craft needing two scout ships, etc. For a first time mission into an unknown sector, it requires both the rover, the scout ship and the drones (which will obviously be, because the carrack is an exploration vessel, sensor drones vice anything offensive or defensive - the latter two would be game changers that are unneeded in SC because how many people are going to want offensive drones? Most everybody.). The repair functionality will probably be sufficient to get the rover back to the ship (please guys, it's their Truck/Land Rover/Jeep), but, who knows what CIG will come up with. The Carrack can function as a C2C vessel without any modifications - because the exploration suite will do lesser functioning easily. E-war variant? Lame because it's a waste of a ship. And I'd like to point out, no one ship in SC will be able to do everything people can imagine. There is no "that one" ship. A Freelancer DUR will be able to function as a C2C vessel just as well, for much less. But, it's range might not match that of a Carrack. Imperium doesn't need it's Carracks playing C2C, that's what an Idris is for. Or the Corvette. Smaller orgs can use the Vanguard Sentinel or a F7 Tracker, medium sized orgs should use a Connie Phoenix/Andromeda or a DUR. I wasn't implying that I want nor need a E-War or C2C Carrack. Perhaps my ideas of wanting to maximize for either searching for uncharted planets or wanting to explore recently discovered but yet explored planets have no merit. I know I would be disappointed if you couldn't configure a Carrack for retrieving the largest recoverable artifacts in the bay or an extended bay. Having one "loadout" for exploration would be rather dull in my opinion. Will we truly know absolutely nothing about where we are exploring? Is it not possible for there to be certain areas to explore which are more likely to have hostile elements or be risky than others? If there is then there would be merit to having a more defensive and less defensive loadouts in preparation for an expedition. If the Carrack can go farther than other exploration ships then there must be the expectation of being capable of defending oneself. Obviously a Idris would rip something like a Carrack to shreds. But again if you encountered some Vandul you should have some capability to defend yourself. Better yet the option to improve your chances if you suspect that your expedition will take you somewhere more dangerous vs improving your sensor suites or artifact recovery capabilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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