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Well who would of expected this.

 

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Which one will you be buying?

 

My eye is on the 3700X

 

This is really good news for Star Citizen if we can give the devs more reasons to produce more code for more cores!

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Where did you find this!? if the 3700X is really this @ that price it will blow the 9900K out of the water... so long as you can effecftively OC at 5.0 Ghz. This could be the shift that AMD has been pushing for a few years now. 

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Calling it now, 3850x has a 50 because it is the 50th anniversary of AMD on 1 May next year (this is their 8086k).

 

Exciting times. If I didn't have what was a decent rig 2 yrs ago (6 core, 12 thread), I'd consider this. 7nm is hopefully gonna be awesome!

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This is all speculation so far.

But I'd buy that 3850X after checking out benchmarks. Looks like a good upgrade to aim for from my R5 1600X.

Manual overclocking isn't really necessary for these CPUs, their turbo/boost alghorithms are already fine tuned. Just adjust PBO and you should be set pretty much.

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AMD Will Be Launching The Ryzen 3000 Series CPUs, APUs And A Radeon GPU At CES

Ryzen Family Ryzen 1000 Series Ryzen 2000 Series Ryzen 3000 Series Ryzen 4000 Series
Architecture Zen (1) Zen (1) / Zen+ Zen (2) Zen (3)
Process Node 14nm 14nm / 12nm 7nm 7nm+
High End Server (SP3) EPYC 'Naples' EPYC 'Naples' EPYC 'Rome' EPYC 'Milan'
Max Server Cores / Threads 32/64 32/64 64/128

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No more inaccurate rumor mills.  The real info is out and its simply not as good as some of you thought.

https://www.anandtech.com/show/14407/amd-ryzen-3000-announced-five-cpus-12-cores-for-499-up-to-46-ghz-pcie-40-coming-77

  • The Ryzen 9 (3900X) has 12 cores at 4.6GHz instead of 16 cores at 4.7GHz and costs $499 instead of $449
  • There is no 16 core version, nothing goes to even 4.7GHz, let alone 5.0 or 5.1 GHz.  Maybe there's a 16 core version at a later date though.
  • The Ryzen 7 (3800X) has 8 cores at 4.5GHz instead of 12 cores at 5.0GHz, and costs $399 instead of $329
  • The Ryzen 5 (3600X) has 6 cores at 4.4GHz instead of 8 cores at 4.8GHz, and costs $249 instead of $229

The IPC is purportedly significantly better, but they still only beat the equivalent Intel chip by 1% in single thread in one benchmark cherry-picked by AMD under unknown circumstances.  A beat is still a beat, but will it still beat Intel in all or even the majority of benchmarks, let alone gaming, when AMD doesn't get to cherry-pick? History suggests, not a chance.

 

Still, competition is good, and some of you are going to pre-order these because you're AMD fanbois. If this applies to you, I suggest you get either:

  • The Ryzen 7 3800X @ $399.  It has eight cores at a higher base clock than the 3900X and its boost clock is only off that one's by .1GHz.
  • The Ryzen 5 3600X @ $249.  It has six cores at the same base clock as the 3900X and its boost clock is only off that one's by .2Ghz
  • Avoid the Ryzen 9 3900X, at least until it shown there is no penalty for its chiplet design.  I suspect there will be a penalty though, or else all these chips would have chiplets.
  • Avoid the Ryzen 7 3700X and Ryzen 5 3600, these two are down-clocked versions that will be significantly worse for gaming than either the 3600X or 3800X.

 

Above all, I urge you all to avoid the hype and wait for reviews and gaming benchmarks before ordering.  Pre-ordering is bad.  The release date is July 7th, that's barely more than a month away, You can wait.  If these are legit, I'll be getting one myself.  But I have significant doubts.

   

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The 3000 series' 16 Core Ryzen 9 is revealed: https://www.anandtech.com/show/14516/amd-16-core-ryzen-9-3950x-up-to-4-7-ghz-105w-coming-september

Compared to the rumor mill's 16 core CPU, this one matches the lower end model pretty close instead of the higher end one listed.  Still 16 cores / 32 threads, but base clock is 3.5GHz instead of 3.9 or 4.3 GHz, boost clock is 4.7GHz instead of 5.1GHz, and price is a whopping $749 instead of $449 or $499.  Its also a chiplet design, like the 12 core.  And it won't be sold until September.

I can't think of a good reason to get this $749 16 core instead of one of the 12 core chips that are significantly cheaper. Unless you're live streaming 4K video, you don't need it. Or unless you're not into price/performance, but if that's the case, just go Intel.  And like the 12-core Ryzen 3000s, I think this chip will be significantly worse for gaming than one of the 8 core or 6 core Ryzen 3000s.

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