Star Citizen Anniversary Special

[VoA]

While Gamescon and Citizencon have impressive presentations....... the big sale (where almost every ship goes on sale - though sometimes limited ships do not - but every year they seem to release a small allotment of Idris P and Javalin ships).

Thought this also deserved its own thread and maybe post on what ships you hope to get to fill out your pledge?

This image below looks like a new Anvil Ship??

*** Note it is called "Anniversary Special" this year instead of "Anniversary Sale"...... I guess they are trying out a new marketing pitch... 

[Tom Villder]

I hope there would be a 2nd edition of Galactic Tour... I hope it would be Clarkson voicing it this time because of the Lumberyard deal idk

As for ships, I'd like to get my hand on a CCU to a Gladiator because I like its armaments, 2nd seat, small size and potential for a small amount of cargo.  In terms of new concept ships, I'd love to see more ground vehicles, especially heavier military ones like tanks and APCs.

[Glitch2210]

cant wait, need to reorganize my fleet

[Fizzlefuse]

3 hours ago, VoA said:

This image below looks like a new Anvil Ship??

That's curious indeed, havent seen a ship like that before. Looks kinda neat

[Reavern]

7 hours ago, VoA said:

This image below looks like a new Anvil Ship??

I agree it looks like a new Anvil ship. It looks like a cross between a Hornet and a Vanguard.

My initial reaction was that it's a new starfighter, probably a brawler, because of the way the wings and overall mass of the ship is concentrated forward, implying that it's a tank-style heavy fighter -- as opposed to the glass-cannon-style Hurricane "heavy" fighter.

Looking closer, it might be a large ship, comparable in size to a Constellation or Retaliator. It's unclear if the nose section of the ship is a cockpit canopy or the ship's bridge. And the small lightly-shaded shape in the ship's distinctively Anvil Aerospace centre circle could be a turret.

However, CIG has said that all of the concept ships that they're currently working on are civilian ships, not combat ships. I know that Anvil doesn't exclusively make combat ships. The Carrack, Crucible, and Terrapin aren't combat ships.

I wonder... could this be a dedicated Dropship or the Heavy Lifter VTOL utility ship that I predicted for the Pioneer? The large wings would make sense for atmospheric flight. The ship seems to be very robust and sturdy. The half-circle shapes at the junctions of the wings and the tails could be VTOL thrusters.

Most intriguing. I'm eager to find out what this ship is, and if it's what I think it is, I'm definitely buying one.

[Dead-Cat-Dance]

I`m curious what will happen to 0$ CCU`s. When CIG will kill them, before 3.0 goes live (end of December) or next 2 weeks before anniversary sale, or maybe they will announce price increase for 350$ ships.

[Danakar Endeel]

Pisces tender for the Carrack?

[Booster Terrik]

Are you guys blind? It is a Crop Duster, look at the stuff coming out of the back 

[Fizzlefuse]

Seeing as the anniversary special is "presented by the UEE Civil Defense Corps" it's probably some kind of defensive ship. Perhaps a short-range interceptor of some sort.

[Reavern]

35 minutes ago, Fizzlefuse said:

Seeing as the anniversary special is "presented by the UEE Civil Defense Corps" it's probably some kind of defensive ship. Perhaps a short-range interceptor of some sort.

That's certainly possible... but it's misleading that CIG said all Wave 6 Ships are "dedicated civilian ships". Revealing a new combat ship, even a "civilian" version (like the F7C Hornet), during the Anniversary Special, is a surprise. A welcome one, as long as it's actually useful. The Buccaneer was described as a "Pirate Interceptor". Does CIG think the game needs a "Police Interceptor" to fend off Pirate Buccs?

Maybe. 

[Devil Khan]

Well, Just looking for a CCU Hull-D and E during the sale really.

Police are not Civil Defense, two very different things altogether. Civil Defense act if needed, two other ship like it are Vanguard and Polaris. However, just looking at the picture means it's not got a lot of armour, shields or weapons, but it is looking like it has got the agility of a light fighter.

We do already have a Police interceptor, The Avenger

Edit: forgot to add in that it's likely that each day will be per manufacturer, with some being clumped together because of their size EG aliens, exotic etc. However they could choice to do it by roles eg racing, touring, transport etc.

Personally I hope that the vids will be a parody of a good show. 

[Reavern]

Quote

THE POLARIS

Built to be both a naval patrol ship and a flagship for militia operations, the Polaris’ versatility makes it an ideal vessel to accomplish a wide variety of objectives. Whether on a search and rescue operation, light strike mission, or general security patrol, RSI’s latest cap-ship is ready to help bring safety and security to your system.

The Polaris was fast-tracked for development following last year’s Vanduul attack on the Vega System. The request-for-proposal specified a smaller, first-response alternative to the Idris-class frigates currently serving with both the UEE Navy and private concerns. Roberts Space Industries’ Polaris bid was selected due to its unique combination of a fully equipped small craft hangar and an array of torpedo tubes that let it punch above its weight class.

As part of the recent Militia Mobilization Initiative, the Polaris is being made available to Citizens so they can protect contested and dangerous regions around the Empire. The UEE military will also utilize the Polaris as a standard patrol and picket ship, where it is expected to be especially effective supporting larger fleet movements. A percentage of funds from the Polaris sale will support continued mobilization and relief efforts across the Empire.

 

The Vanguard and Polaris are both military ships that have been made available to civilians to increase the UEE's readiness for Vanduul aggression.

Civil Defense isn't about combat, it's about protection. Traditional roles of Civil Defense have been air raid shelters, search & rescue, auxiliary firefighters, civil air patrol, and coast guard auxiliary. A new, light interceptor would be poorly suited for those roles. Whereas the Avenger and Cutlass Red and Blue are ideally suited ships for those roles.

The new mystery ship doesn't look small or agile. Its wings and tails are too large. Fast and nimble ships, like the Merlin, 85x, M50, and Razor, don't have large wings and don't need them for space flight.

It doesn't make sense to design a new starfighter for Civil Defense when there are a wide assortment of existing starfighters. That said, I wouldn't put it past CIG to create a new starfighter just to sell it during the Anniversary Special and generate more funding.

Perhaps @Booster Terrik is correct that the cloud emanating from the skinny tail of the ship is a clue to its purpose. I assume crop dusting was a joke. I wonder if it's a firefighting ship used to drop fire suppressant. Of course, that can't possibly be its only purpose. I suspect there's a robust fuselage hiding beneath the wing "shoulders" that can carry passengers or cargo. It could be for S&R and med-evac. I'm hoping it could also be used as a Heavy Lifter utility craft to recover escape pods or small craft and vehicles.

[Devil Khan]

Coast Guard doesn't exist amount the majority of "coastal" countries. Civil Defense means crowd control or "natural" state of emergency EG storms or floods. Also National Guard only exist in the US. Army > Reserves > Civil Defense(defense). All members are military active and stand-by.  Civil defense are equipped with standard equipment, as the regular army would. However, it is just the lack of army (wo)men resources and training/regular exercises. Civil defense are equipped with tanks and/or apcs depending on the size of the country. Vanguard is designed to be on patrol on the edge systems not just vanduul, the same goes for the Polaris, you even pointed it that it was the Militia and not the solely the active navy    

The central is the engine as there is clearly shows it's vertical fan blades as is with the other anvil fighters/bombers.

Also from that pic  there is two weapons mounted under wing and the side of the cockpit and specular that it  has very good agility, but lack of speed.

Size-wize I'd dare you to out size with side by side with a gladius, would say even the anvil fighters when they are revealed.

[Rhehaud180]

I plan to use some of my LTI tokens to get quite a few ships. Hulls A-D, Orion, Banu Merchantman.  Going to melt a bunch of other LTI tokens to finance most of it, so will only be $240 out of pocket.

[Chimaera]

Can't wait to unmelt my Hope LTI 

[Taldren]

On 11/10/2017 at 11:29 PM, Reavern said:

I agree it looks like a new Anvil ship. It looks like a cross between a Hornet and a Vanguard.

My initial reaction was that it's a new starfighter, probably a brawler, because of the way the wings and overall mass of the ship is concentrated forward, implying that it's a tank-style heavy fighter -- as opposed to the glass-cannon-style Hurricane "heavy" fighter.

Looking closer, it might be a large ship, comparable in size to a Constellation or Retaliator. It's unclear if the nose section of the ship is a cockpit canopy or the ship's bridge. And the small lightly-shaded shape in the ship's distinctively Anvil Aerospace centre circle could be a turret.

However, CIG has said that all of the concept ships that they're currently working on are civilian ships, not combat ships. I know that Anvil doesn't exclusively make combat ships. The Carrack, Crucible, and Terrapin aren't combat ships.

I wonder... could this be a dedicated Dropship or the Heavy Lifter VTOL utility ship that I predicted for the Pioneer? The large wings would make sense for atmospheric flight. The ship seems to be very robust and sturdy. The half-circle shapes at the junctions of the wings and the tails could be VTOL thrusters.

Most intriguing. I'm eager to find out what this ship is, and if it's what I think it is, I'm definitely buying one.

My guess is a space tug boat for moving larger ships around

 

Actually, based on the picture my guess would be a gas giant mining ship that skims the atmosphere of gas giants for H3 or other rare gases.

[Reavern]

4 hours ago, Devil Khan said:

Coast Guard doesn't exist amount the majority of "coastal" countries. Civil Defense means crowd control or "natural" state of emergency EG storms or floods. Also National Guard only exist in the US. Army > Reserves > Civil Defense(defense). All members are military active and stand-by.  Civil defense are equipped with standard equipment, as the regular army would. However, it is just the lack of army (wo)men resources and training/regular exercises. Civil defense are equipped with tanks and/or apcs depending on the size of the country. Vanguard is designed to be on patrol on the edge systems not just vanduul, the same goes for the Polaris, you even pointed it that it was the Militia and not the solely the active navy    

The central is the engine as there is clearly shows it's vertical fan blades as is with the other anvil fighters/bombers.

Also from that pic  there is two weapons mounted under wing and the side of the cockpit and specular that it  has very good agility, but lack of speed.

Size-wize I'd dare you to out size with side by side with a gladius, would say even the anvil fighters when they are revealed.

That was unintelligible. None of those broken English sentences form a coherent point. You're apparently quibbling that American examples of Civil Defense aren't universal across the world. That doesn't change the fact that my examples are RL examples of Civil Defense, which most people are at least familiar with.

This is the first time that CIG has ever mentioned the "UEE Civil Defense Corps". Presumably that means the mystery ship is something new and different -- otherwise why wouldn't it just be the Intergalactic Aerospace Expo again this year? It's NOT just another light, agility fighter. SC already has plenty of those. CIG knows that they won't generate new funding if they release another agility fighter similar to the Gladius, M50, Khartu-al, 325A, or Mustang Delta. Backers will just melt those ships to buy the new concept ship. CIG won't gain anything from that. If CIG wants to generate new funding, the mystery ship has to be something other than an agility fighter.

I don't know what pic you're looking at, but I don't see any of the weapons or engines you claim to see on the mystery ship. The Aegis "centre circle" on the Hornet and Gladiator aren't engines or vertical fan blades. The circle is where the Hornet's ball turret is located. On the Gladiator, the circle is the power plant cooler, but it's not a spinning fan, because that would be useless as a cooling device in space because there's no air to function as a medium for heat transfer.

The top of the main fuselage runs over the Aegis circle and is connected to the tail. (Why would a "cooling fan" be obstructed like that?) On top of that, in the middle of circle, there's a white object with what appears to be a single gun barrel on the left side. I believe that is a turret -- not necessarily a gun turret though (it's unusual to have a single gun in a turret). If it is a turret, the ship would be much larger than a Hornet or Gladiator, or even a Vanguard.

As I said before, the wings make no sense for an agility fighter. They're too long and too broad. And they're useless in space. Furthermore, the wings don't appear to be able to fold or sweep back. Virtually all carrier-based UEE fighters and bombers have retractable wings so they're as compact as possible.

CIG said that all Wave 6 ships are dedicated civilian ships. They're not supposed to be combat ships. All the ships released after the Aegis Eclipse have been non-combat ships. There are many non-combat roles and professions in Star Citizen that don't have affordable, dedicated ships yet. It doesn't make sense that CIG would release another redundant combat ship. It would have no special appeal for the Anniversary Sale.

Last year's Anniversary Sale featured the Polaris Corvette. That was a big, impressive capital ship that was very appealing to backers. If the mystery ship is just another light, agility fighter, it's going to be a flop. It can't possibly be the highlight of the Anniversary Special. That's why I believe it's a larger ship, about the size of a Constellation or Retaliator, and it serves an appealing new role. It's not a "game changer" like the Pioneer. But it'll be exciting. I'm certain of that.

[Chimaera]

17 minutes ago, Reavern said:

Last year's Anniversary Sale featured the Polaris Corvette.

That was CitizenCon. Last year's anniversary sale featured the Prowler. The Polaris wasn't even a part of the anniversary sale as a feature.

18 minutes ago, Reavern said:

CIG said that all Wave 6 ships are dedicated civilian ships. They're not supposed to be combat ships.

Civilian ships don't mean lack of combat ability. They can be a cilivian-specific ship that's specifically for Civil Defense. Since the UEE is supposed to be needing all combat troops and patrols at the front, it would make sense for a civilian law-enforcement type vessel to exist for the purposes of responding to threats to civil security posed by piratical elements.

21 minutes ago, Reavern said:

That's why I believe it's a larger ship, about the size of a Constellation or Retaliator, and it serves an appealing new role.

It could also be the size of a Sabre. We honestly have nothing to scale it by.

21 minutes ago, Reavern said:

That was unintelligible. None of those broken English sentences form a coherent point.

Totally agree, the post you reference was atrocious to read, but given that person's history on this forum, it's not unexpected, so no need to be totally snarky.

All of that said, this looks like one ugly ship. Not "Terrapin functional" ugly, just plain ugly.

[LowZone]

On 11/11/2017 at 12:32 AM, Fizzlefuse said:

That's curious indeed, havent seen a ship like that before. Looks kinda neat

If my source is correct, it's the Anvil Bastion that was mentioned in August.

[Fizzlefuse]

46 minutes ago, Chimaera said:

All of that said, this looks like one ugly ship. Not "Terrapin functional" ugly, just plain ugly.

Hey, that’s your opinion. Honestly, I think every ship so far looks amazing... even the Herald’s odd look has grown on me. I’m sure I’ll like this new ship as well... let’s just wait and see😉

28 minutes ago, LowZone said:

If my source is correct, it's the Anvil Bastion that was mentioned in August.

Haven’t heard that name before but bastion does fit with the whole ‘defense’ theme...

[Bloodrane]

Does the prowler usually go on sale this time of year?

[Chimaera]

Since this will be the first Anniversary where the Prowler may or may not be there, we don’t know. What we DO know is that Espera doesn’t have any package sets during past sales. So probably not unless it’s a part of a larger package.

[Devil Khan]

No, since this would be the first anniversary for the prowler, plus this would be the first sale after the concept sale IF the prowler went on sale at this time.  

Anyway, the Christmas  "sale" will be in less than a month after this one and have most of and some new packages deals for sale. However, the "rare ship" or Vanduul (even though the glaive was made by the UEE as a "trainer", but could be wrong) isn't logical as some weren't listed during the sale and some were. They weren't listed the same each year.

[Boildown]

I think its a Vanguard.  Just a drawing of one, like a 6th grader might do from memory.  Not intended to be another ship at all.

Also, wings aren't useless in space.  You can put maneuvering thrusters on the ends of them to increase torque given the same amount of thruster force when extended vs. when in swept configuration.  Of course this would require there to actually be thrusters on the wingtips.

 

[danredda]

I wonder if CIG are laughing right now at everyone trying to figure it out, especially if it is just a modified vanguard or something.