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Hi there,

 

yes he could reclaim it.

this is an important thing to know, but should not be an absolute show stopper.

 

there are different ways to mitigate this risk:

 

If you were to purchase a ship you I advise you to have a look to https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/

* purchase your shio from well known sellers.

 

* Pay with paypal: your transaction would be recorded and the Seller would have to accept the money prior to receiving it. => for future reference if the guy accepted the money it means he agreed with the process.

 

*request an invoice stating the ship XXXX  ID XXXXXX was sold to you.

 

 

I purchased multiple ships from reddit (and from the Imperium web site as well) and all went perfectly fine.

 

best regards

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Personally I would advise against buying any ships on Ebay due to the risks involved in potentially getting scammed. You're better off buying it from the link Amy Babe provided. But always check the seller first and see if he or she is considered trustworthy. ;)

Also, depending on which ship you wanted it might be an idea to simply wait for CIG's anniversary sale in november as they usually sell (almost) every ship at that time. Unless your goal is to get it with Lifetime Insurance in which case you may need to hope that CIG releases a cheap concept ship or vehicle with LTI first and then get creative with Cross-Chassis-Upgrades (CCU) afterwards. :)

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3 hours ago, Amy Babe said:

Hi there,

 

yes he could reclaim it.

this is an important thing to know, but should not be an absolute show stopper.

 

there are different ways to mitigate this risk:

 

If you were to purchase a ship you I advise you to have a look to https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/

* purchase your shio from well known sellers.

 

* Pay with paypal: your transaction would be recorded and the Seller would have to accept the money prior to receiving it. => for future reference if the guy accepted the money it means he agreed with the process.

 

*request an invoice stating the ship XXXX  ID XXXXXX was sold to you.

 

 

I purchased multiple ships from reddit (and from the Imperium web site as well) and all went perfectly fine.

 

best regards

But I take it, it won't be easy to reclaim it right? 

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7 minutes ago, Ironman993 said:

But I take it, it won't be easy to reclaim it right? 

Actually, it would be extremely easy for the seller to reclaim it. All they would need to do is contact Customer Support and claim their account was hacked and ships are missing. Then Customer Support would simply trace the ships to their destination and remove them from those accounts while reinstating them on his.

So that's why I would urge you to either only buy from trustworthy sellers or simply wait for CIG to sell the ships themselves and buy them directly from them.

If I may ask, which ship(s) were you interested in buying?

 

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5 hours ago, Danakar Endeel said:

Actually, it would be extremely easy for the seller to reclaim it. All they would need to do is contact Customer Support and claim their account was hacked and ships are missing. Then Customer Support would simply trace the ships to their destination and remove them from those accounts while reinstating them on his.

So that's why I would urge you to either only buy from trustworthy sellers or simply wait for CIG to sell the ships themselves and buy them directly from them.

If I may ask, which ship(s) were you interested in buying?

 

Well, a wee bit over simplified and you're likely scaring the guy a bit... it's not that easy... the claimant would first tell his story, CS would look into it, if it's 2 years  ago they would say this is likely a scam on the part of the claimant because why would it take him 2 years to notice??? if its last week then they would freeze all accts in question and contact the concerned parties. If the new ship owner can provide sufficient proof to show he purchased the ship legitimately, no further action would be taken. If however there is no paper trail, then the new owner may have a fight on his hands. Overall, Ebay isn't the best place to purchase digital products because they are simply way too easy to scam. As for a big grey market provider you will pay for that security in $$.

I agree with @Danakar Endeel when he mentioned to simply wait and purchase during these gamescom, citcom and Anni sales or simply purchase a small token ship and CCu it to what you desire.

 

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7 hours ago, AstroJak said:

Well, a wee bit over simplified and you're likely scaring the guy a bit... it's not that easy... the claimant would first tell his story, CS would look into it, if it's 2 years  ago they would say this is likely a scam on the part of the claimant because why would it take him 2 years to notice??? if its last week then they would freeze all accts in question and contact the concerned parties. If the new ship owner can provide sufficient proof to show he purchased the ship legitimately, no further action would be taken. If however there is no paper trail, then the new owner may have a fight on his hands. Overall, Ebay isn't the best place to purchase digital products because they are simply way too easy to scam. As for a big grey market provider you will pay for that security in $$.

I agree with @Danakar Endeel when he mentioned to simply wait and purchase during these gamescom, citcom and Anni sales or simply purchase a small token ship and CCu it to what you desire.

 

I already bought a ship from ebay, but it was in like Feb or March of 2015, it was the 890 Jump. So kinda worried about it since I paid a pretty penny. My paypal account should have the invoice still, and even on ebay there should be proof of purchase. 

Should I dig up my invoices from paypal and ebay? Or my bank transactions? So I can be ready if incase if something happens or no?

4 hours ago, xKiLlFrEnZyx said:

I like others have said would stay away from eBay... 

What ship are you after?

Hi.

I'm not after, I already bought it like in Feb of 2015. But am worried now about it being reclaimed. It was the Origin Jumpworks 890 Jump LTI.

13 hours ago, Danakar Endeel said:

Actually, it would be extremely easy for the seller to reclaim it. All they would need to do is contact Customer Support and claim their account was hacked and ships are missing. Then Customer Support would simply trace the ships to their destination and remove them from those accounts while reinstating them on his.

So that's why I would urge you to either only buy from trustworthy sellers or simply wait for CIG to sell the ships themselves and buy them directly from them.

If I may ask, which ship(s) were you interested in buying?

 

I  think it's been about 2 years, why would he wait 2 years to reclaim it? But that "??" is kinda scary because as we get closer to the jump being completed, I am afraid the guy can try to get it back. I paid like 750 for it in 2015 feb. It was on ebay and I paid through paypal.

I want to add, that the only reason I bought the 890 was because I missed the sale in Oct 2014 or something. And it was limited allotments so I really wanted it. That's why I had no choice but to go to ebay. And to me at that time, ebay seemed safer than buying/selling over reddit grey market. 

17 hours ago, Amy Babe said:

Hi there,

 

yes he could reclaim it.

this is an important thing to know, but should not be an absolute show stopper.

 

there are different ways to mitigate this risk:

 

If you were to purchase a ship you I advise you to have a look to https://www.reddit.com/r/Starcitizen_trades/

* purchase your shio from well known sellers.

 

* Pay with paypal: your transaction would be recorded and the Seller would have to accept the money prior to receiving it. => for future reference if the guy accepted the money it means he agreed with the process.

 

*request an invoice stating the ship XXXX  ID XXXXXX was sold to you.

 

 

I purchased multiple ships from reddit (and from the Imperium web site as well) and all went perfectly fine.

 

best regards

Ok, after digging through my paypal and ebay and gmail I found everything. I have the invoice, the paypal transaction invoice, ebay ad, listing ad, all these are on the same day it was purchased, I also have a bank transaction id on my bank account online, I took some screenshots of the ad on ebay as well with the transaction id and photo, I have emails from RSI that confirms it was gifted on the same day it was purchased in Feb 2015. I think that's all I really need to prove I bought it if an issue arises in the future right?

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Okay, if you have all the invoices just keep those safe just in case. My apologies for scaring you but I felt like it was the best approach to take in case you were still contemplating on buying a ship through Ebay. ;)

Just keep those invoices safe as then you can prove to Customer Support that you are now the legal owner of the ship. :)

 

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2 hours ago, Danakar Endeel said:

Okay, if you have all the invoices just keep those safe just in case. My apologies for scaring you but I felt like it was the best approach to take in case you were still contemplating on buying a ship through Ebay. ;)

Just keep those invoices safe as then you can prove to Customer Support that you are now the legal owner of the ship. :)

 

Nah, it's no problem lol. I was scared a lot though at first when I read your message. I spent an hour digging up them in my email and looking everywhere from junk mail to trash lol, but finally, I was smart enough to keep those invoices from Feb 2015. I actually thought I got rid of them initially. Yeah, so I took some screenshots as well so I think I'm good lol. The dude I bought it from didn't seem like someone who plays star citizen, probably someone who wanted to make some extra crash, he had a bunch of other items for sale like graphic cards, processors, and other tech stuff. Also he lives in my same city lol but I don't know him or anything. 

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