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Good to see that CIG is not going the 'forced gimbals' after all and will allow people to add a fixed S3 loadout if they so choose. That at least makes the ship more viable to HOTAS users again. :)

(I'm still sticking to my Sabre though) ;)

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It is not a fighter ( with a single small fuel tank), it is an escort with 2 medium fuel tanks. These two aren't the same. The main reason with this is escorting EG MM. There are a lot of big ships yet only one capable fuel and that is the Vanguard. Some people will like it's extreme long range weapon.

 
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How will the range and mobility of the Defender compare to other fighters?

The Banu developed the Defender to provide protection and fly alongside the Merchantman, so its design includes a much improved range over other fighters of similar size due to its fuel intakes, dual fuel tanks, and large quantum drive, as noted in the brochure.

We intend it to have an edge in mobility for a fighter of its size, due to a light hull construction and its use of Xi’An engine tech. As often happens in game design, all this mobility and range must come at a price, for this case in armor protection, so you’ll need to use that agility to your advantage.

Since it is a nimble ship where does it compare to other ships like the Sabre, Buccaneer or Khartu-al?

The Khartu-Al emphasizes mobility in general; it’s hard for most ships in its size category to compete with, especially the lightly-armed Scout variant. In terms of straight SCM or AFB speed, the Defender will edge out the Sabre. With the Buccaneer, the Defender should outperform slightly in terms of general maneuvering, but have to contend less favorably with the Buccaneer’s strong retro-thrusters and better strafing ability.

 

 

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does that mean that the Banu has in some way , to Refuel a defender in some way, or will the 2 med size tanks cover the whole trip or route.

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Looks like I was correct on this.... https://robertsspaceindustries.com/spectrum/community/SC/forum/50153/thread/banu-defender-cig-already-has-potential-cockpit-vi

Banu Defender - CIG already has Potential Cockpit Visibility - SOLVED

Q&A: Banu Defender -->> https://robertsspaceindustries.com/comm-link/transmission/15871-Q-A-Banu-Defender

 

Will you address the issue with cockpit visibility?
Short Answer: Yes.
Longer Answer: As we discussed on the Subscriber’s Town Hall (helpfully included down below) we’ve been looking at several solutions for the visibility issue since before the sale was announced, as indicated in this month’s Jump Point. While we’re exploring several options, none of them should majorly impact the overall look or aesthetic of the ship, but we anticipate will greatly improve pilot and co-pilot visibility. 

 

Looks like CIG is leaning towards employing the Landing Configuration per OP and per below....

 

Will the front prongs fold back during combat to offer a better view forward?
The mechanisms on the prongs offer a lot of movement flexibility, so this is certainly one of the likely avenues for improvements to the visibility we’re exploring, possibly by angling them down/outwards more.
 
 
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9 hours ago, Painmiester said:

does that mean that the Banu has in some way , to Refuel a defender in some way, or will the 2 med size tanks cover the whole trip or route.

All ship should have refueling... hence the Starfarer

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I don't see it that way; he referenced the arm movement as a potential avenue to visibility improvements, then talked of lowering/widening them (which is fine).  This was after saying in the previous question "none of them should majorly impact the overall look or aesthetic of the ship".  To me that means they want to preserve the current shape, which fighting in landing mode does not do, imo.  It would also relegate the arm movement to being a gimmick for some sort of travel mode, which I don't like.

To me, there was a conscious decision on CIG's part to sell the ship as is, because that's the general shape they (Chris Roberts) want for the ship.  I don't think it's fair on buyers that like it (in particular the ones that didn't use credit) to expect them to be happy with such a major design/shape change just because they're not as vocal.

I want my Goteki 45, not Zoidberg... ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

 

 

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On the Defender's escort role, it will be interesting to see what longer range really means (marketing hype vs. reality compared to other ships).  On arm configurability, if that comes true, I hope it is a manual selection.  Not something automatic when weapons are powered up.  Best of both worlds then if the pilot gets to choose.

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20 hours ago, Danakar Endeel said:

Good to see that CIG is not going the 'forced gimbals' after all and will allow people to add a fixed S3 loadout if they so choose. That at least makes the ship more viable to HOTAS users again. :)

(I'm still sticking to my Sabre though) ;)

I wish they would commit to this consistently across all ships...

 

As for the Sabre, it will be a most interesting mono-boating competition!

Looking forward to epic one-on-one battles between Sabre and Defender, hoping they will be balanced well enough to really require each pilot to use his ship's specific capabilities fully to win that duel...

 

4 hours ago, Sky Captain said:

On the Defender's escort role, it will be interesting to see what longer range really means (marketing hype vs. reality compared to other ships).  On arm configurability, if that comes true, I hope it is a manual selection.  Not something automatic when weapons are powered up.  Best of both worlds then if the pilot gets to choose.

I so wish we didn't have to constantly talk about "marketing hype vs reality" but sadly, this is exactly what CIG has stooped down to...

Its gone well beyond what anyone could call "balancing", not to mention, that the game isn't even ready for any balancing, with so many ship mechanics not working / connected yet...

I don't know how realistic this would be, or how much howling we'd get from Vanguard owners, but the Defender's job would seem to require at least as much fuel tank reach as the Vanguard...

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19 hours ago, GalYurr said:

I don't see it that way; he referenced the arm movement as a potential avenue to visibility improvements, then talked of lowering/widening them (which is fine).  This was after saying in the previous question "none of them should majorly impact the overall look or aesthetic of the ship".  To me that means they want to preserve the current shape, which fighting in landing mode does not do, imo.  It would also relegate the arm movement to being a gimmick for some sort of travel mode, which I don't like.

To me, there was a conscious decision on CIG's part to sell the ship as is, because that's the general shape they (Chris Roberts) want for the ship.  I don't think it's fair on buyers that like it (in particular the ones that didn't use credit) to expect them to be happy with such a major design/shape change just because they're not as vocal.

I want my Goteki 45, not Zoidberg... ༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ

CIG has promised quite a few fixes in reworks, but often failed to make any change relevant to the issue.  :P

So yeah, I don't put much stock in whatever they say until I see it.

To be fair, they DID fix the seating position in the Hornet, where your character's eyes used to be below the side window sill.  On the horizontal, from the outside, you could only see the Pilot's hair from the side before...  That got fixed the way it needed to be fixed.

The Constellation wasn't so lucky. Apparently, Chris Smith got tired of working on it, before he got around to fix either the ridiculous view from the lower turret, nor the pilot seat's position, leaving all that jutting out glass in the Constellation a dysfunctional gimmick, offering no more of a view than what a cutoff right in front of the pilot's seat with a single, vertical glass pain would have offered.

His face spoke volumes in the video segment, where he admitted it was too much for him to mess with the turret, following that up with stating that probably not all turrets should be "perfect"...

I wasn't looking for "perfect"  ...merely "not dismal" would have earned my approval :P 

 

 

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They have messed up some ships in the past for sure; I used to have a Vanguard with all the modules and a Retaliator ;p  I think they've learnt some lessons by now though, so hopefully it'll turn out OK.

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6 hours ago, GalYurr said:

They have messed up some ships in the past for sure; I used to have a Vanguard with all the modules and a Retaliator ;p  I think they've learnt some lessons by now though, so hopefully it'll turn out OK.

I'm not convinced that they have 'learned' in that area...  Much talk and no results - maybe they failed to fire someone who is blocking things, idk.

Otherwise, those old ships wouldn't still be messed up - several of them had more than one rework.

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Went to buy a 2nd one  ,but must wait 1230 am tomarrow for the gift card to go thru the 24th wait period.....

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6 hours ago, Painmiester said:

Went to buy a 2nd one  ,but must wait 1230 am tomarrow for the gift card to go thru the 24th wait period.....

A second one of what?

(and a note, just in case...  store credits from gift cards cannot be used to purchase any warbond editions, so you should avoid gift cards, unless you know you'll use the store credits for something that's not available as a warbond edition - otherwise you'd have to pay a higher price in spite of sending CIG fresh cash...)

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Just dropped some cash into account. Banking was messed up a bit last month.

Melted a reg 315 plus // 100$  for 2nd defender. lots of bannu pilots will want excorts. .ship rentals .

Will unmelted the MM NEXT 2 weeks when I get back to states 

It's only money.......

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Personally, I think the style looks very cool for an alien ship, even when landed. The S3x4 Fixed or default S2x4 Gimballed.

The difference with the Sabre is this has got extremely long range as it's an escort. 

 

 

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      Target ship manufacturer    Target ship Upgrade name Price, $ Aegis Dynamics Avenger Titan Renegade 325A to Avenger Titan Renegade 21 Aegis Dynamics Avenger Warlock 325A to Avenger Warlock 31 Aegis Dynamics Gladius Valiant Cutlass Black to Gladius Valiant 26 Aegis Dynamics Reclaimer Constellation Aquila to Reclaimer 105 Aegis Dynamics Reclaimer Starfarer Gemini to Reclaimer 36 Aegis Dynamics Reclaimer Caterpillar to Reclaimer 84 Aegis Dynamics Retaliator Base F7C-R Hornet Tracker to Retaliator Base 21 Aegis Dynamics Retaliator Base Freelancer MAX to Retaliator Base 21 Aegis Dynamics Retaliator Bomber Redeemer to Retaliator Bomber 36 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Constellation Taurus to Sabre 30 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Retaliator Base to Sabre 30 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Cutlass Blue to Sabre 30 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Gladiator to Sabre 15 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Freelancer MIS to Sabre 15 Aegis Dynamics Sabre F7C-R Hornet Tracker to Sabre 42 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Comet Sabre to Sabre Comet 31 Aegis Dynamics Sabre Comet Constellation Taurus to Sabre Comet 52 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Harbinger Constellation Aquila to Vanguard Harbinger 31 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Harbinger Retaliator Bomber to Vanguard Harbinger 31 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Harbinger Vanguard Sentinel to Vanguard Harbinger 26 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Hoplite Constellation Taurus to Vanguard Hoplite 89 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Hoplite Khartu-Al to Vanguard Hoplite 68 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Hoplite Hull C to Vanguard Hoplite 36 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Hoplite Retaliator Base to Vanguard Hoplite 89 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Hoplite F7C-M Super Hornet to Vanguard Hoplite 57 Aegis Dynamics Vanguard Warden Constellation Andromeda to Vanguard Warden 36 ARGO Astronautics MPUV Personnel Aurora LN to MPUV Personnel 15 ARGO Astronautics MPUV Cargo Mustang Alpha to MPUV Cargo 15 Anvil Aerospace F7C-M Super Hornet Constellation Taurus to F7C-M Super Hornet 30 Anvil Aerospace F7C-M Super Hornet Khartu-AL to F7C-M Super Hornet 21 Anvil Aerospace F7C-M Super Hornet F7C Hornet Wildfire to F7C-M Super Hornet 15 Anvil Aerospace F7C Hornet Wildfire Constellation Taurus to F7C Hornet Wildfire 38 Anvil Aerospace Carrack Constellation Aquila to Carrack 99 Anvil Aerospace Carrack Starfarer Gemini to Carrack 31 Anvil Aerospace Carrack Starfarer to Carrack 73 Anvil Aerospace Carrack Caterpillar to Carrack 94 Anvil Aerospace Crucible Starfarer Gemini to Anvil Crucible 26 Anvil Aerospace Crucible Constellation Aquila to Anvil Crucible 105 Anvil Aerospace Crucible Retaliator Bomber to Anvil Crucible 99 Anvil Aerospace Crucible Caterpillar to Anvil Crucible 78 Anvil Aerospace Gladiator Constellation Taurus to Gladiator 26 Anvil Aerospace Terrapin F7C-M Super Hornet to Anvil Terrapin 44 Anvil Aerospace Terrapin Freelancer MIS to Anvil Terrapin 44 Anvil Aerospace Terrapin Khartu-Al to Anvil Terrapin 47 Anvil Aerospace Terrapin Sabre to Anvil Terrapin 42 Anvil Aerospace Terrapin Constellation Taurus to Anvil Terrapin 59 Banu Merchantman Constellation Andromeda to Merchantman 99 Consolidated outland Mustang Delta Mustang Gamma to Mustang Delta 21 Consolidated outland Mustang Delta Avenger to Mustang Delta 15 Crusader Industries Genesis Starliner Constellation Aquila to Genesis 157 Crusader Industries Genesis Starliner Carrack to Genesis 78 Crusader Industries Genesis Starliner Caterpillar to Genesis 147 Crusader Industries Genesis Starliner Hull D to Genesis 73 Crusader Industries Genesis Starliner Endeavor to Genesis 73 Drake Interplanetary Buccaneer Cutlass Black to Buccaneer 21 Drake Interplanetary Caterpillar Constellation Andromeda to Caterpillar 49 Drake Interplanetary Caterpillar Constellation Aquila to Caterpillar 31 Drake Interplanetary Caterpillar Retaliator Bomber to Caterpillar 31 Drake Interplanetary Herald 325A to Herald 26 Drake Interplanetary Herald Avenger Titan Renegade to Herald 21 Drake Interplanetary Cutlass Blue F7C-R Hornet Tracker to Cutlass Blue 31 Drake Interplanetary Cutlass Blue Freelancer MAX to Cutlass Blue 31 Drake Interplanetary Cutlass Blue Prospector to Cutlass Blue 21 Esperia Vanduul Blade Constellation Andromeda to Esperia Blade 42 Esperia Esperia Prowler Caterpillar to Esperia Prowler 173 MISC Freelancer MIS Constellation Taurus to Freelancer MIS 26 MISC Endeavor Constellation Aquila to Endeavor 99 MISC Endeavor Orion to Endeavor 52 MISC Endeavor Caterpillar to Endeavor 84 MISC Hull A 300I to Hull A 15 MISC Hull B 325A to Hull B 42 MISC Hull C Constellation Taurus to Hull C 78 MISC Hull C Anvil Terrapin to Hull C 31 MISC Hull D Constellation Aquila to Hull D 105 MISC Hull E Constellation Aquila to Hull E 309 MISC Prospector F7C-S Hornet Ghost to Prospector 26 MISC Prospector Freelancer Dur to Prospector 26 MISC Reliant Kore (Mini Hauler) Avenger Stalker to Reliant Kore (Mini Hauler) 15 MISC Reliant Skirmisher (Tana) Avenger Stalker to Reliant Skirmisher 15 MISC Reliant Researcher (Sen) 325a to Reliant Researcher 15 MISC Reliant Researcher (Sen) 315p to Reliant Researcher 21 MISC Reliant News Van (Mako) 325a to Reliant News Van 26 MISC Reliant News Van (Mako) Reliant Mini Hauler to Reliant News Van 26 MISC Starfarer Constellation Aquila to Starfarer 36 MISC Starfarer Gemini Starfarer to Starfarer Gemini 59 MISC Starfarer Gemini Constellation Aquila to Starfarer Gemini 94 MISC Starfarer Gemini Caterpillar to Starfarer Gemini 68 Origin Jumpworks 350r Cutlass Red to 350r 15 Origin Jumpworks M50 Interceptor Gladius to M50 Interceptor 22 Origin Jumpworks 85X Aurora CL to 85X 15 RSI Polaris Constellation Aquila to RSI Polaris 535 RSI Polaris Carrack to RSI Polaris 456 RSI Polaris Anvil Crucible to RSI Polaris 456 RSI Aurora LX Aurora MR to Aurora LX 13 RSI Orion Constellation Aquila to Orion 73 RSI Orion Caterpillar to Orion 52 RSI Orion Starfarer to Orion 47 Xi'an Khartu-Al Constellation Taurus to Khartu-Al 31 Xi'an Khartu-Al F7C-R Hornet Tracker to Khartu-Al 41 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    • By VoA
      Like the sister thread Characters (FPS) - 2.0 
      and other sister threads:
       
         This thread people can compile images and videos of Alien avatars (characters) (FPS).
      Here is a new Vanduul Image from Chris Olivia





      ^^^ Vanduul
      +++ Another Alien listed under Star Citizen from Chris Olivia on his Art Station (possible Tevarin or Kr'Thak?)

      +++ Some older Chris Olivia art for Star Citizen


      ^^^ Banu


      ^^^ Xi'An
      and Tevarin below....
       
    • By Inferniken
      I have a Banu Defender concept pack with LTI which I would like to exchange for an Anvil Carrack with LTI.
      I will also pay the difference of $165.
      I would prefer to trade for an original concept Carrack, however this can be discussed in PMs.
      The method of my payment is flexible but i would preffer to use paypal.
       
      This is my first time making any kind of trade so please bare with me if I'm quite cautious.