AstroJak Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 HI @GRIZZ looks like your ready to go... Turo and GeraldEvans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 RTV Just now... 11:45 - Ben Clarifies that the Orion Reference in the Prospector post has to do with the Orion Variant already sold (the Orion will apparently come with different variants and the one they sold us is the one that has a built in refinery) - other Orion Variants (not sold yet) will not have the built in Refinery. AstroJak, BryGen and Leonn 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryGen Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 1 minute ago, VoA said: RTV Just now... 11:45 - Ben Clarifies that the Orion Reference in the Prospector post has to do with the Orion Variant already sold (the Orion will apparently come with different variants and the one they sold us is the one that has a built in refinery) - other Orion Variants (not sold yet) will not have the built in Refinery. Yeah noticed that in the post for the Prospector, talk about Orion variants, so was curious about that but looks like they cleared it up some on RtV. VoA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Villder Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Honestly this ship is perfect for the player who has an irregular gaming schedule. They can come on their own time, mine and still contribute: Quote The Prospector is more of a precision tool for a solo player to target resource pockets directly, whereas the Orion requires a full team to grind their way through an asteroid field. Quote It is able to break up and destroy asteroids and, with the correct variant, process the minerals on board I'll be eagerly waiting for the refinery variant :-D 1 hour ago, VoA said: I wonder if they broke the "Penultimate Ship" rule that only the Large Industrial Ships have on-board refining operations - it seems to me like the Prospector actually refines ore and spits out the waste as part of its internal system.... what do you think? The variants could differ based on different attributes i.e. there will always be a catch, for example: - Version 1 - with a refinery but reduced capacity/mining speed. - Version 2 - one with a large capacity but no refinery and reduced mining speed. - Version 3 - one with a relatively fast mining speed, but with standard cargo capacity and no refinery. Quote The sensors on the Prospector would operate on a smaller, more detailed scale. YES! This is what I've been looking for... mining on a smaller scale with a smaller signature. If I was leading a mining op. I'd rather have 5-10 Prospectors working in unison with a Hull B/C rather than a couple of Orions. Quote It was intended that everything was handled from the cockpit This is a great design choice. You can pack up as quickly as you arrived and leave at any sign of danger. Although I would've preferred a rear turret and freelancer-style gimballed side weapons, but I'd trade that for the mobility. Bambaataa 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryGen Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Quette, VoA, Tom Villder and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minted Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I like it. Very cool looking vessel. It seems that these industrial ships really allow artists to go wild. Much more so than the combat ships we have which are just plain boring in comparison to these new ships. ChiefWarrant, Karmaslap and BryGen 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I dig it. It's a question of what to get rid of... No way I can swing an addition. ChiefWarrant 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChiefWarrant Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 So... Coincidence or planned numbers. One Hull-B (384 SCU), can off- load 3 Prospect (128 SCU) loads worth. Beautiful design. Perfect for my solo plays when everyone's at work/school/excuse. Tom Villder, Leonn, GRIZZ and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted April 22, 2016 Author Share Posted April 22, 2016 23 minutes ago, Nova-Prime said: So... Coincidence or planned numbers. One Hull-B (384 SCU), can off- load 3 Prospect (128 SCU) loads worth. Beautiful design. Perfect for my solo plays when everyone's at work/school/excuse. I think the Prospector is 8x (eight replenishing bags) = 8x 128 SCU = 1024 SCU worth of "bagged" ore ---- On another note here is STL's vid... ChiefWarrant, Tom Villder, Yekko and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalYurr Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Think this'll be as close to a starter ship that I'll get; the planetary mining, that the Orion can't do, makes it a long term keeper as well. BryGen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryGen Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 2 minutes ago, VoA said: I think the Prospector is 8x (eight replenishing bags) = 8x 128 SCU = 1024 SCU worth of "bagged" ore Bet your right! Be a good one to have confirmed in the Q&A. Tom Villder 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 I think the Prospector is 8x (eight replenishing bags) = 8x 128 SCU = 1024 SCU worth of "bagged" ore ---- On another note here is STL's vid... It's physically much smaller than a HULL B. How could it hold so much more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalYurr Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 It has up to 8 spare collapsed containers (somewhere) that replace full containers that are ejected. They're not hollow when collapsed and stored so they take up much less space. VoA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BryGen Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 6 minutes ago, GeraldEvans said: It's physically much smaller than a HULL B. How could it hold so much more? It would have to drop bags/containers before it could load up more, but potentially could fill up to 32 bags before it ran out. If its 8 containers per slot. Might be 8 containers per ship or side, not sure. Selling or Dropping – The Prospector is quite unique in that it can either take a full load of resources back to a station or refinery for selling, or it can drop the cargo on the spot and begin to fill one of the collapsed storage crates it has in reserve. This makes it very good for working in unison with other Prospectors and cargo haulers. Leonn and GeraldEvans 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldEvans Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Thanks!. I missed that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pyro nl Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 thats 1 awesome looking ship, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Irres Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 $140 seems like a lot for this ship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AstroJak Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 On a side note; with regards to what we are seeing on this latest ship concept, it looks so far along the the ship pipeline, i would guess it could be hanger ready "Soon"(TM). Now "Soon"(TM) for CIG might be in 2-6 months but i feel they have streamed lined their ship pipeline so much so, that many of these new concepts are presented in a more completed state than those in past years. AJ Tom Villder, Leonn, BryGen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgenroete Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Love this ship! VoA and Wu Jen 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reavern Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 5 minutes ago, Irres said: $140 seems like a lot for this ship The Prospector, like a Starfarer, is a primary industry ship, which means it extracts and collects natural resources... for free. There are no mining permits or land leases in space mining; as a Miner, you simply find a lode of resources, set the Prospector down, fire up the laser drill, and start pulling money out of the dirt. The Prospector essentially makes money. The Prospector is roughly the size of a Freelancer and $30 more expensive, but packs a lot of equipment into its hull -- way more than a DUR, MAX, or MIS. I don't always agree with CIG's pricing (i.e. the $250 Vanguard), however IMO $140 is a reasonable price for the Prospector. CIG has a habit of under-pricing Industrial and Mercantile type ships, because they're not as "sexy" as combat ships. Later, CIG adjusts the price to reflect the ship's true value in the Persistent Universe. So I expect, like the Starfarer, the Prospector's price will jump up when it's hangar/flight ready; it'll probably be at least $200. It's definitely a smart idea to buy the Prospector now than wait and regret it later. pyro nl, Danakar Endeel, Wu Jen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leonn Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 Just now, Morgenroete said: Love this ship! Yep, love it! This ship will be a great little earner. The way I read it is that this ship comes with 8 containers. Ship has four attached at any one time. As you swap out your first four full ones they are replaced with your 4 spares. That means that as long as you have a hauler with you or enough spare containers you can mine indefinitely resources permitting of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wu Jen Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 2 hours ago, VoA said: RTV Just now... 11:45 - Ben Clarifies that the Orion Reference in the Prospector post has to do with the Orion Variant already sold (the Orion will apparently come with different variants and the one they sold us is the one that has a built in refinery) - other Orion Variants (not sold yet) will not have the built in Refinery. They usually answer my questions when I ask. Just takes some spamming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GalYurr Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 An Idris with Prospectors inside could be a nice alternate PvE mining setup for the cap ship hehe. Idris lands, serving as a drop off point for full containers. Then all aboard again and back home. :] They'd be like manned mining drones. Morgenroete 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morgenroete Posted April 22, 2016 Share Posted April 22, 2016 21 minutes ago, GalYurr said: An Idris with Prospectors inside could be a nice alternate PvE mining setup for the cap ship hehe. Idris lands, serving as a drop off point for full containers. Then all aboard again and back home. :] They'd be like manned mining drones. I'm thinking about the same thing. Hopefully we will be able to land a couple of the little miners inside the Idris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faquarl25 Posted April 23, 2016 Share Posted April 23, 2016 7 hours ago, Trophias said: From what I've read on it and I'm hoping once the Q & A's come out, it does touch on that more. I think it is just a filtration system to where you are gathering the specific ORE such as "Cobalt" and not just "Rubble". If it actually does what "refining" actually means, then it will be interesting, but I thought the Orion was supposed to be covering that point. I am puzzled. I sincerely hope that the orion cannot fully refine minerals as that is the job of planet side refineries. I hope what this means is that the prospector will filter out just rock bits and keep the rock and ore bits while the Orion will be able to separate the ore from the rock, even if it is on the same piece. This could lead to some illegal activity involving players trying to pass low density ore for highly concentrated stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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