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Apparently as they wanted to preserve the LTI status of the first batch, however strange that may seem when they have LTI tokens now for sale.

But then again, could you explain to me the difference between 3-year in-game insurance versus LTI? It means you have to spent 3*365*24 = 26,280 hours in-game before this insurance runs out. Although I do plan to enjoy Star Citizen thoroughly, spending 3 years* of my life on Star Citizen wasn't on the list.

Upset as you may be, just sell your P-72 again and buy the Phoenix, practically it is the same as LTI and LTI should be negligible anyway, no big deal.

 

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*Crap, it is not even about spending full-time. Full time is 40 hours per week (at least here), while there are 168 hours in a week. So, actually, it is about working playing for 12 years full-time. If you "only" play for 4 hours a day, which would still be a serious addiction for an adult with a daily job, this is going to last 24 years. Good luck with that ;-). The point of this entire story: 3-years insurance is the same as LTI for all practical purposes. Those people who will outplay this, should really begin to worry about their life rather than insurance on digital star ships.

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26 minutes ago, BravoTwoZero said:

Those people who will outplay this, should really begin to worry about their life rather than insurance on digital star ships.

Based on past experience, I can tell you there are quite a few people planning long term (meaning beyond 3 years) for this "game", even if it is mostly hope at this point. Start with our leadership for examples.

I'd also wager to say there is a large base of mature, professional players that have their "life" in order to a point their leisure time is an extension of it. Work hard, play hard. Same approach. Lifetime Insurance and Long Term commitments mean different things to different people. 

Just sayin'

Or maybe I'm just upset because I just realized that the current Anniversary Sale means I spent $1k more than I needed to buying LTI ships off the Grey Market.

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I've been playing World of Warcraft regularly without taking any major breaks since it launched 11 years ago. My time /played on my main character is 282 days. I don't spent a lot of time on alts, but let's be very VERY generous and say my alts' collective time played was the same as my main. That still puts me under two years of play time over a span of eleven years. If my characters were ships and WoW were SC, 11 years later I'd still have about half of my three year insurance plan.

LTI means nothing.

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I think though that the last time insurance was explained, it was in game hours. Wouldn't that also mean in game compression of hours? I've seen to many comments back and forth to make any point conclusively but I'll attempt later tonight (on not my phone) to search the 10 For transcripts here where CR explained this, this year if I recall.

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I don't think in-game time has been defined yet. I mean, are we really travelling at the speed of light? :)

My hunch is that they will need a time/credit sink and adjust the mechanics to control the "economy".

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Either way. I'm pumped for 2.0 to get released for full play. Gonna be a good time. I grabbed a phoenix with 3 year on it. Will be a hell of a ship

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We really don't know how that 3-years will be defined.  If its 3-years of in-game time, then its essentially the same thing as LTI.  If its 3-years from the public release of Star Citizen (like I would expect), then its still a pretty dang long time.

Not sure of my WoW characters, but my main EQ character had over 300 days /played by the end, about 4 years of real world time.  And none of that was being a Bazaar trader either (used an alt for that).  I was super hard-core about that game (obviously, 1/5th of my life was logged in on just that character), but still that's not even a third of the way to using up a 3-year insurance policy if its defined that way.

Anyways, if you already have an LTI Phoenix (full disclosure, I have one), then you're smugly secretly pleased; if you don't and you wanted one, then you're upset.  Forum and reddit comments will naturally reflect this.

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On the whole time LTI / thing, it was stated by CR IIRC, that it will be based on in-game time compressed at 4x to 5x normal time, so aka, 1yr insurance would equate to roughly 2.3 - 3months in-game, and yes he also stated it was LOGGED IN TIME.

I do believe this will change, from logged in time to actual rolling real world time as a way of getting ships out of the game and in-game money out of peoples in-game wallets. because as stated above by others, if it's logged in time and people would only roughly log in for maybe between 3-8 hours a day possibly adding to 24 hours in a week (unless your jobless/social lifeless and play 18/7 a week) it'll take just about forever to run out of 'backer hull insurance' and if your not loosing your ship, then your not having to sink a fair amount of in-game monies into replacing things and everyone will be a billionaire by the end of a year. Aka economy broken.

 

On the whole LTI Phoenix thing, you can always buy a 'Phoenix Upgrade kit' off the grey market if your looking at CCUing something with LTI. Be warned though those upgrade kits are at a premium, last I looked they were around $300-$350, best to just buy the thing off CIG IF they hold true to the Insurance being logged in game time, but we all know this is CIG and they change anything and everything on a whim to suit themselves or their back pocket.

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