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Which flavor of Endeavor will you buy?

Which one for you today?   39 members have voted

  1. 1. Which Endeavor will you get?

    • Endeavor Base (No modules-buy it in the verse!)
      2
    • Endeavor Base (Buy random bits!)
      5
    • Endeavor Discover (Discovery!)
      7
    • Endeavor Hope (Pocket Carrier!)
      3
    • Endeavor Olympic (Pauly Shore movie reenactment central!)
      5
    • Endeavor Master (I can haz all the bits?)
      17

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The Endeavor looks great and I'm impressed by the assortment of modules CIG has created for it...

However, I can't justify buying one of these, because I'm a Military guy. I'm sure it would be fun to be the captain of an Endeavor and perform science-type missions, but I know I'd never get my money's worth out of an Endeavor. Also, if and when my Endeavor was attacked by Pirates or Vanduul, the peaceful pursuit of science would be replaced by an all-consuming desire for vengeance. :gr_devil: ;)

Perhaps I'll acquire an Endeavor in-game, eventually. If and when I do acquire an Endeavor, I'd probably get a Discovery model, and add the Telescope Array or the Super Collider.

 

Something just occurred to me. CIG has mentioned that an Endeavor could serve as "a mobile meth lab" to produce illegal narcotics. If that's possible, I wonder if an Endeavor could be used to produce chemical, biological, or nuclear weapons? Imagine being able to nuke a Vanduul base, unleash a bio-weapon on a Vanduul colony, or infiltrate a Vanduul cap ship and release a chem-weapon through the ventilation system that kills the entire crew, enabling the ship to be captured completely intact.

I assume that CIG wouldn't allow that because WMDs would be too OP'd and players could wreak havoc on UEE planets.

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However, I can't justify buying one of these, because I'm a Military guy. 

The Endeavor has many military applications - mainly with its Telescope  and Particle Collider + Hospital.   It will be awesome to "remote spy" on things far away including finding Jump Points (yes a Carrack Can find jump points too but maybe it can't cover as much area in the same amount of time that the Telescope can).  Over-clocking has huge military implications........ as does Reviving People that have died in military conflicts.  Sure you may not want the Bio-Dome Module........... but you probably want all the other modules.

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Unless the q&a's change my mind the discovery looks like my favourite. I would have liked to add the telescope module to that one but I feel the price is over the top so I will earn that in the universe. People should realize that the way I read it the explorer can only be detached for a longer time when the crew module is attached (does anyone else think this might be true?)

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Unless the q&a's change my mind the discovery looks like my favourite. I would have liked to add the telescope module to that one but I feel the price is over the top so I will earn that in the universe. People should realize that the way I read it the explorer can only be detached for a longer time when the crew module is attached (does anyone else think this might be true?)

Longer time yes however overall it means you can stay disconnected and have a larger crew on the ship for a longer amount of time.

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After seeing the following Biodome concept art, I was surprised by how small the Biodomes are:

Agricultural_pod_D.jpg

Assuming that pic is to scale, I eyeball that the Biodome is less than 30 metres in diametre. This seems a reasonable guesstimation, because the Base Endeavor is 48 metres at its widest point, and less than half of the Biodome extends beyond the Explorer module's engine "wing".

When I first saw the Endeavor's Biodomes, I assumed they were much larger.

Considering the Biodomes' relatively small size, I find it hard to believe that they could grow enough produce to make a profit... unless they were growing something more... illicit. ;) Perhaps pairing an Olympic with a Discovery would form an ideal partnership for the production and processing of illegal narcotics.

I could be wrong though. Perhaps CIG intends to invent futuristic "wonder" fruits and veggies for Star Citizen, which are super healthy and can only be grown in a low-grav environment (like an Endeavor's biodomes), so their profit margin is much higher than earthbound carrots and lettuce. :D

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You would probably need that many biodomes just to feed the 16 people on your crew. The whole concept is a bit ridiculous if you ask me. There is no way you can use one of these biodome ships to grow food in a cost effective manner. The only thing it might realisticly do is grow specialty items that cost thousands of credits for a few ounces of them ( which fits with some of what cig has been telling us). Unless genetic engineering reaches new heights in the future where crops can be harvested every 2 hours you do not even need any storage on the ship because with this few m2 you could fit the entire harvest in the cargo space of an Aurora ;-) 

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You would probably need that many biodomes just to feed the 16 people on your crew. The whole concept is a bit ridiculous if you ask me. There is no way you can use one of these biodome ships to grow food in a cost effective manner. The only thing it might realisticly do is grow specialty items that cost thousands of credits for a few ounces of them ( which fits with some of what cig has been telling us). Unless genetic engineering reaches new heights in the future where crops can be harvested every 2 hours you do not even need any storage on the ship because with this few m2 you could fit the entire harvest in the cargo space of an Aurora ;-) 

Exactly. If the Olympic was a long-duration exploration or colonization ship, which needed to sustain its crew with food and water for months or years, then four biodomes might be adequate for 16 people. However, I doubt that an Olympic could serve as a mobile grocery store, supplying remote colonies and space stations with fresh produce -- which they supposedly couldn't grow on their own. It just doesn't seem to have the capacity to produce enough food for thousands of people, which is the amount you'd need to turn a profit. Because one Olympic wouldn't produce as much food as even a small terrestrial farm.

By my math (assuming the biodomes are 30 metres in diametre), each biodome only has 706 square metres of farmland. Four biodomes have a total of 2827 square metres of land. An acre of land is 4047 square metres. So an Olympic has less than 3/4's of an acre of farmland.

I think the only way that an Olympic could produce enough food to turn a profit is if you're right about future farming tech being capable of growing crops in a matter of hours. Since Star Citizen is a video game, that actually might be the case. CIG has already revealed that time progression in the PU is accelerated. I recall CIG saying that 1 day IRL is the equivalent of 1 week in game time. (Something like that.) I know that present day hydroponics and aeroponics grow plants much faster than traditional farming techniques. I suppose it's plausible that in a thousand years a full crop could be grown in a few days, which when converted from game time is only a few hours. So in the course of a game session an Olympic-owner could grow a fresh crop and sell it for a profit.

Regardless, the real money is going to be in producing illegal substances that are far more profitable. B)

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After seeing the following Biodome concept art, I was surprised by how small the Biodomes are:

Agricultural_pod_D.jpg

Assuming that pic is to scale, I eyeball that the Biodome is less than 30 metres in diametre. This seems a reasonable guesstimation, because the Base Endeavor is 48 metres at its widest point, and less than half of the Biodome extends beyond the Explorer module's engine "wing".

When I first saw the Endeavor's Biodomes, I assumed they were much larger.

Considering the Biodomes' relatively small size, I find it hard to believe that they could grow enough produce to make a profit... unless they were growing something more... illicit. ;) Perhaps pairing an Olympic with a Discovery would form an ideal partnership for the production and processing of illegal narcotics.

I could be wrong though. Perhaps CIG intends to invent futuristic "wonder" fruits and veggies for Star Citizen, which are super healthy and can only be grown in a low-grav environment (like an Endeavor's biodomes), so their profit margin is much higher than earthbound carrots and lettuce. :D

I'm sure those nice people with the two endeavors parked outside that neighboring binary star system are just growing melons.

Really expensive melons. :)

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      I Want Upgrade My Ship From I Want Upgrade My Ship To Price Available Constellation Taurus Hull C 60$ ¦ 57€ YES Constellation Andromeda Caterpillar 80$ ¦ 77€ YES Freelancer MAX Cutlass Blue 15$ ¦ 14€ YES F7C-R Hornet Tracker Gladiator 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Constellation Taurus Freelancer MIS 20$ ¦ 19€ YES F7C-R Hornet Tracker Freelancer MIS 30$ ¦ 28€ YES F7C-R Hornet Tracker F7C-M Super Hornet 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Constellation Taurus F7C Hornet Wildfire 30$ ¦ 28€ YES F7C-M Super Hornet F7C Hornet Wildfire 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Sabre F7C Hornet Wildfire 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Constellation Taurus Sabre COMET 42$¦40€ YES Sabre Sabre COMET 20$¦19€ YES Cutlass Black Gladius Valiant 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Gladius Gladius Valiant 25$ ¦ 24€ YES 325A Avenger Titan Renegade 10$ ¦ 9€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ F7C Hornet Sabre 70$ ¦ 65€ YES F7C-S Hornet Ghost Sabre 54$ ¦ 50€ YES F7C-R Hornet Tracker Sabre 36$ ¦ 34€ YES F7C-M Super Hornet Sabre 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Constellation Taurus Sabre 25$ ¦ 23€ YES M-50 Sabre 81$ ¦ 76€ YES 325A Sabre 115$ ¦ 108€ YES 350R Sabre 54$ ¦ 50€ YES Gladius Sabre 92$ ¦ 86€ YES Mustang Delta Sabre 118$¦111€ YES Cutlass Black Sabre 81$ ¦ 76€ YES Cutlass Red Sabre 60$ ¦ 56€ YES Retaliator Base Sabre 25$ ¦ 23€ YES Freelancer Sabre 70$ ¦ 65€ YES Freelancer MAX Sabre 35$ ¦ 33€ YES Freelancer MIS Sabre 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Gladiator Sabre 10$¦9€ YES Buccaneer Sabre 70$ ¦ 65€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Constellation Andromeda Vanguard Warden 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Hull-C Vanguard Warden 60$ ¦ 56€ YES Sabre Vanguard Warden 90$ ¦ 87€ YES Freelancer MIS Vanguard Warden 95$ ¦ 92€ YES F7C-M Super Hornet Vanguard Warden 95$ ¦ 92€ YES Constellation Taurus Vanguard Warden 115$ ¦ 108€ YES Redeemer Vanguard Sentinel 20$ ¦ 18€ YES Redeemer Vanguard Harbinger 38$ ¦ 35€ YES Constellation Aquila Vanguard Harbinger 10$ ¦ 9€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ 325A Reliant Researcher 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Retaliator Base Terrapin 54$ ¦ 50€ YES Xi'an Khartu-al Terrapin 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Sabre Terrapin 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Freelancer DUR Terrapin 54$ ¦ 50€ YES Freelancer MIS Terrapin 35$ ¦ 33€ YES Prospector Terrapin 66$ ¦ 62€ YES Constellation Taurus Terrapin 54$ ¦ 50€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Mustang Delta Buccaneer 54$ ¦ 50€ YES Avenger Titan Buccaneer 70$ ¦ 65€ YES Avenger Warlock Buccaneer 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Reliant Kore Buccaneer 70$ ¦ 65€ YES Origin 315P Buccaneer 70$ ¦ 65€ YES Herald Buccaneer 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Gladius Buccaneer 25$ ¦ 23€ YES M-50 Buccaneer 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Cutlass Black Buccaneer 15$ ¦ 14€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ 325A Herald 20$ ¦ 19€ YES Orion Crucible 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Constellation Aquila Crucible 85$ ¦ 80€ YES Starfarer Gemini Crucible 15$ ¦ 14€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Carrack POLARIS 445$ ¦ 417€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Starfarer Gemini Carrack 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Orion Carrack 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Redeemer Carrack 115$ ¦ 108€ YES Constellation Andromeda Carrack 140$ ¦ 132€ YES Caterpillar Carrack 65$ ¦ 60€ YES Constellation Aquila Carrack 85$ ¦ 80€ YES Constellation Aquila Reclaimer 85$ ¦ 80€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Constellation Aquila Starfarer 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Caterpillar Starfarer 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Orion Starfarer Gemini 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Constellation Aquila Starfarer Gemini 74$ ¦ 70€ YES Freelancer DUR Prospector 22$ ¦ 21€ YES Constellation Aquila ORION 60$ ¦ 58€ YES Caterpillar ORION 35$ ¦ 33€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Cutlass Red 350R 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Gladius M-50 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Origin 325A M-50 35$ ¦ 33€ YES Freelancer DUR Razor 15$ ¦ 14€ YES M50 Razor 42$ ¦ 40€ YES 350r Razor 15$ ¦ 14€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Vanguard Sentinel Retaliator Bomber 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Vanguard Warden Retaliator Bomber 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Redeemer Retaliator Bomber 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Constellation Andromeda Retaliator Bomber 60$ ¦ 56€ YES Hull-C Retaliator Bomber 85$ ¦ 80€ YES Terrapin Retaliator Bomber 90$ ¦ 85€ YES Freelancer MAX Retaliator Bomber 150$ ¦ 141€ YES Freelancer MIS Retaliator Bomber 125$ ¦ 117€ YES Gladiator Retaliator Bomber 125$ ¦ 117€ YES Xi'an Khartu-al Retaliator Bomber 115$ ¦ 107€ YES Sabre Retaliator Bomber 115$ ¦ 107€ YES Retaliator Base Retaliator Bomber 140$ ¦ 131€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ Carrack Genesis 60$ ¦ 58€ YES Constellation Aquila Genesis 135$ ¦ 130€ YES Genesis Prowler 30$ ¦ 28€ YES Mustang Alpha ARGO Cargo 10$ ¦ 9€ YES P-72 Archimedes ARGO Cargo 10$ ¦ 9€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ARGO Cargo ARGO Personnel 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Dragonfly Yellowjaket ARGO Personnel 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Dragonfly BLACK ARGO Personnel 10$ ¦ 9€ YES ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ ░░░░░░░ P-72 Archimedes Dragonfly BLACK 10$ ¦ 9€ YES P-52 MERLIN Dragonfly Yellowjacket 20$ ¦ 18€ YES P-72 Archimedes Dragonfly Yellowjacket 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Aurora MR Dragonfly Yellowjacket 15$ ¦ 14€ YES Aurora LX Dragonfly Yellowjacket 10$ ¦ 9€ YES Mustang Alpha Dragonfly Yellowjacket 10$ ¦ 9€ YES
    • By GRIZZ
      MISC makes a bid for the next Murray Cup with the all-new Razor. This advanced racer features an advanced composite space frame that puts pure speed ahead of everything else… it’s the ship for pilots who want to leave the competition in the dust.
      Introductory Sale price $135   ($120 WarBond Edition if you pay full cash now, or $135 if you use credits)
      Regular Ship Sale Page
      Introduction Page
       

       




    • By Zul
      I want to sell an Endeavor Pods (Medical, Landing, General Research)
      Prices are including paypalfee.
       
      Medical Bay 3year 75€/ 85$
      Landing Bay 3year 75€/ 85$
      General Research 3year 50€/ 55$
       
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      Sabre LTI (Original Concept Sale) -> SOLD
       
    • By Antimyon
      Hey everyone,
      i'm not sure, wether i am doing this right (still rather new to starcitizenbase), but i'd like to buy a Mustang Gamma and/or a MISC Freelancer (any kind) preferably with LTI
      payment via paypal
      please pm me if you have any offers