Ferrying - other Ships with the MISC Hull A-E [POLL]

[VoA]

++++ See Sister Thread and Vote on the RSI Forums for greater sampling

 

First Section Below describes first POLL Question....

We know that only Carrier ships like the Bengal, Pegasus, Javelin, Idris and Connies can launch and land ships in combat ...... but CR has mentioned we can haul ships within other ships cargo holds (if they fit).  Now the question is will CIG allow us to attach other ships to the cargo spindles on the Hull Ships to haul them from system to system?

 

^^^^ This for Hull A-E + other Transports..... = only "Ferrying" other ships ...... and not.......

 

^^^^ This is like Bengal, Pegasus, Idris, etc... a Carrier that can launch and land ships in combat to refuel / re-arm / etc.... This is different than simply hauling via a "Ferry"...

 

 

EDIT - Adding this below to OP to help illustrate concept...

 

Found this player image of how a Hull E might be able to Haul ships from system to system.   Keep in mind that this doesn't mean that these ships would be able to "launch and land" like a carrier == they can only be loaded and unloaded like cargo (out of combat).

 

 

 

Second Section Below describes second POLL Question....

 

We know that both the Hull D and Hull E are designed for a MAX 5 Crew.  If you look at how big the Hull D and E are you will notice that 5 crew don't need the all the space of the front forward sections for these ships.   Should CIG design the Hull D and Hull E to have an internal cargo bay in addition the the living quarters for the crew in the front forward section (since it is obviously big enough)?  If you look at the image below you can see that many of the smaller ships (to the left of the 890 Jump image) can easily fit within just the forward section of the Hull D and Hull E and these forward sections have more than enough extra space to provide an internal cargo hold in addition to crew living quarters.

[Perditor]

I wouldn't mind seeing platforms attached to the spindle/scaffold to allow them to function like Jeep Carriers, then you would have to cycle out the ships through an actual carrier to re-arm, re-fuel, re-fit and change pilots. But there should be some way to transport other ships in either containers or externally regardless.

[zerkerz]

Will capital guns be transported by being attached to the side of the Hull series? Or do we get bigger crates?

[Nevermore]

maybe not "attached"  but something like combine the "boxes on the sides to make 4 big pr arm or a magnetic platform of some sort  ? where you could carry larger items in like capital weapons or smaller ships

or a tractor beam as it clearly has the "towing power"

 

as for the cargo it would make sense as you might need to do repair/maintenance   

 

 

depending on the size of the starliner this could be it's alternative use 

 

i.e ships who transports you  as well as  your vehicle 

[VoA]

Here are some follow up questions (for someone that voted no to both questions)... on this that I posted on the Sister thread - please post there as well and vote as well for greater sampling

 

 See Sister Thread and Vote on the RSI Forums 

 

 

 

1) Why do you think you wouldn't be able to attach and haul another ship with the Cargo Spindles (it would mean that you couldn't attach cargo + the ship to that spindle(s) ) ...... ???

2) What do you think CIG should do with all that "extra" space (not needed for just living quarters for a crew of 5)... in the forward sections of the Hull D and Hull E ...... if not used as an internal cargo bay...???

[Nevermore]

drones  10000s of drones  
could be fun if it could attach the "small repair ship"  in some combination 

[pyro nl]

drones  10000s of drones  

could be fun if it could attach the "small repair ship"  in some combination 

 

that would be a awesome sight ;o hundreds of drones released o.O

[Dr. Oppenheimer]

How many people here bought a Hull E and plan on using that as their main income?

[JohnWhiskey]

well, maybe not 10,000s of drones but certinaly 100s of mining drones (with the hull E, as those drones are big),,, now i'm imagination a mining fleet with a few hull E's filled with drones, another with a refinary (or more depending on amount comming in) and drone control towers, and just cleaning up rocks from space

 

Here are some follow up questions (for someone that voted no to both questions)... on this that I posted on the Sister thread - please post there as well and vote as well for greater sampling

 

 

 See Sister Thread and Vote on the RSI Forums 

 

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2) What do you think CIG should do with all that "extra" space (not needed for just living quarters for a crew of 5)... in the forward sections of the Hull D and Hull E ...... if not used as an internal cargo bay...???

that 2nd question, is not thinking about where the power plant and shields and (maybe) fuel tanks and other stuff have to go, which will not be small for a large ship

[VoA]

well, maybe not 10,000s of drones but certinaly 100s of mining drones (with the hull E, as those drones are big),,, now i'm imagination a mining fleet with a few hull E's filled with drones, another with a refinary (or more depending on amount comming in) and drone control towers, and just cleaning up rocks from space

that 2nd question, is not thinking about where the power plant and shields and (maybe) fuel tanks and other stuff have to go, which will not be small for a large ship

Much of this can be located in the Aft section of the ship. Even so there will be plenty of exta volume in the Forward section for the Hull D and Hull E... Check out the size comparison image. It will still leave them with a large volume for an internal cargo bay

[JohnWhiskey]

umm,,, you know that most of the space in the front part of the ship is for the pipe when it's closed up right? if anything it looks like (maybe?) internal cargo hold is beside the engines, it may even be where most of the critial systems are

[VoA]

Found this player image of how a Hull E might be able to Haul ships from system to system.   Keep in mind that this doesn't mean that these ships would be able to "launch and land" like a carrier == they can only be loaded and unloaded like cargo (out of combat).

 

[JohnWhiskey]

that looks like a mighty tempting target for pirates, steel 1 ship and get 15

 

you will need heavy escorts for that move

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@VoA seems like you and me are the only ones that have anything to say

[stevenchai01]

Does system to system travel possible without the jump point? if not, we might need to find a jump point big enough for it and navigating through worm hole with the titan would be...interesting xD

[CyberianK]

 

sorry don't want to troll this thread I just find it funny that for every ship bigger than fighter size there is this discussion if it can be a carrier and how many ships it could carry

 

on topic yes it would be nice if the cargo system allows stuff like that but not absolutely required since there are so many carrier ships already

[Byronyk]

I don't see it happening. I love the fact people are excited and thinking outside the box, but this is still a game and limited by functionality. I'm going to quote someone on reddit that I believe has it right:

 

 

People are reading into the hull series way too much and will be super butt hurt when they realize those are cargo haulers and cargo haulers only. Super slow and very easy to take down.

These are not Q ships. They won't have the power pipes to put any sort of meaningful shields / turrets defense on them. They won't be carriers. They won't be capital ships.

Their role is to haul cargo through safe space. Hull E doesn't get you a carrier or a javilin like ship. You're getting a gigantic cargo hauler. You could put machine guns and load up armored suvs onto a freight-liner in real life too. It will still go down in 1 hit vs any sort of a military grade ship.

 

 

[Olrodkeir]

I'd agree, but CIG has talked about shipping your ships between hangers before.

[VoA]

 

sorry don't want to troll this thread I just find it funny that for every ship bigger than fighter size there is this discussion if it can be a carrier and how many ships it could carry

 

on topic yes it would be nice if the cargo system allows stuff like that but not absolutely required since there are so many carrier ships already

 

 

I don't see it happening. I love the fact people are excited and thinking outside the box, but this is still a game and limited by functionality. I'm going to quote someone on reddit that I believe has it right:

Before I saw your posts @CyberianK and @Byronyk -  I was going to change the Title of this thread and the Sister RSI thread from Hauling to "Ferrying" (which again is different from a Carrier which can launch and land ships = see OP)

 

 

^^^^ This for Hull A-E + other Transports..... = only "Ferrying" other ships ...... and not.......

 

^^^^ This is like Bengal, Pegasus, Idris, etc... a Carrier that can launch and land ships in combat to refuel / re-arm / etc.... This is different than simply hauling via a "Ferry"...

 

I'd agree, but CIG has talked about shipping your ships between hangers before.

AGREE

[Nevermore]

IT could be a huge ass grill

[CyberianK]

IT could be a huge ass grill

LOL for space whale barbecue to feed a whole planet during famine

[NaTtype]

That will be a very expensive cargo to haul around specially when its visible.. very helpful tho

[AdmiralBoom]

I wonder if you wanted to setup an asteroid hangar somewhere if you would need to get it shipped by one of the Hullers

[SnowOwl]

Here is what I see for the practical use of the Hull Series in terms of logistics.

 

 

HULL A - Delivering supplies to ground forces, such as ammo armored suits, Kevlar, and possibly assembly parts for a small vehicle, like a Warthog(From halo, or other vehicle that resembles a Humvee.)

 

HULL B - Delivering ammunition(Missiles, or other ammo)  and ship parts for atmospheric craft, and space craft. Example: Hornet. Maybe even assembly parts for small fighter space/atmospheric craft.

 

HULL C - Transport of raw resources or cargo between planets/space stations or systems. Assembly parts for the smaller multi-crew ships.

 

HULL D - Transport of raw resources or cargo between planets/space stations or systems. Assembly parts for the medium sized multi-crew ships.

 

HULL E - Transport of raw resources or cargo between systems. Assembly parts for the larger multi-crew ships, maybe even capital ship parts/materials.

[aka_mythos]

Has CIG actually said if all of the cargo capacity is external?-I look at the Hull A for instance, it is modeled with 32 external pods. If all cargo capacity is external and each of those is representative of  a fixed number of Cargo Units, then the 32 needs to divide into them evenly but they don't. In the Cargo Interaction videos they say a similarly sized container is 2 standard cargo units. If these are the same size as the ones on the Hull A, then that only accounts for 64 SCU, leaving 11 or 5 and a half crates unacounted for. I'm not saying its the case, but 5.5 crates could reasonably fit in the cockpit half of the ship and still leave crew space.

[VoA]

BOTH - Poll Questions answered by CIG in  the RSI Hull A Q&A   

 

“Can the hull ships carry smaller starfighters (packed or configured as cargo) such as the Super Hornet?” – queetz

Yes! Spacecraft can be broken down into their component parts for transport, or carried in their completed forms aboard larger Hulls. There is also a ‘midget fighter attachment’ being developed for the Hull E which will allow it to drop and recover escort fighters in exchange for cargo space.

“How large are the manned cabs? Are there multiple rooms/areas such as a bathroom, food prep, and sleeping quarters?” – The Bevrwolf

The manned cabs differ significantly depending on the ship, although all of them have some form of the ‘standard luxuries.’ The Hull A is more like a tractor trailer, with a small sleeper area, while the Hull D or E are large enough to have multiple decks.