oneoff Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Yeah, and the hot tub is buming me out too. Seems pretty superfluous. But the other upgrades seem great. If I do upgrade my Connie package, you all think I should melt it and get the phoenix package or just upgrade the ship I have and keep the same package? (I don't have lifetime insurance, BTW) For added firepower? Or do you just not like the look of the phoenix? I got mine by melting my package(non LTI) and a cutlass plus some other unused store credit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shootter Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 The beautiful white color scheme and the 2 addition vehicles that come with the Phx is what made me upgrade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reavern Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I upgraded my connie to the phoenix because I like the idea of the increased powerplants, engines and the point defense system. The interior is what is killing me. I would much rather have a functional interior and there is just too much white. I agree: The Phoenix's interior is pretty, but it isn't my style. However, I chose to upgrade my original Rear Admiral game package because I wanted the most powerful and heavily armed variant model of the Constellation, and that is definitely the Phoenix. If CIG gives us the option in the future to redo the Phoenix's interior, but keep its weapons, power plant, engines, and shields, then I'll probably do that. If not, I suppose I'll just have to get used to Phoenix's luxury interior. It's kinda ironic. If the Constellation truly existed and we could afford to buy the Phoenix luxury model, I doubt anyone would complain about it. But here we are whining that the Phoenix's interior is too luxurious, and we don't like it because it's not in keeping with how we imagined our game characters flying around the galaxy. I get that. Because I envision my game character as Han Solo or Malcolm Reynolds type, and my Constellation as a Millennium Falcon or Serenity type of ship; as opposed to Captain Kirk and the USS Enterprise. It's more fun to be the heroic underdog than the goldenboy. StoneJamison, VoA and oneoff 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aquarius Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 Just did the walk-through of my Aquila. Visibility from the bridge is much better than the base model (for me). No rover in the back yet but i can wait for that. I wonder what they will sell the P-52 for when it is available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danakar Endeel Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 I currently still have my Andromeda as I don't really like the interior layout of the Phoenix. That hottub just looks awkward and out of place to me and being forced to pay something like $125 for the upgrade token feels rather steep. Also, even though the stats page lists Size-7 thrusters, the brochure only lists them as max Size-5. And as Ben said that the brochure would have the most up-to-date info I'm rather reluctant to put stock in anything. Especially since there are quite a few inconsistencies in the brochure (as usual). Besides, I was planning on keeping my Constellation for the time being as I imagine CIG is going to ask for an arm and a leg when they release the Redeemer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dezno Posted August 16, 2014 Author Share Posted August 16, 2014 I bought the limited phoenix upgrade just to have.......may or may not use I need more info but at least I know I am now secure if phoenix ends up being the best "bang" for your buck with the T7 engine and powerplant and upgraded snub fighter and land vehicle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneJamison Posted August 16, 2014 Share Posted August 16, 2014 @Reavern Well said! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris von Hoff Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I upgraded my old conny to Phoenix, but the mess with the stats in Brochure and in the shipstat section left me a bit confused/sad/angry at what exactly i just bought did i get TR7 max engines or TR5? what cargo do i have now, 540 or 350? does the taurus have 576 cargo or 1900 Chris Roberts mentioned in a interview the taurus had nearly double cargo as the Andromeda so from that info 1900 would make a more reasonable cullpit i do think the weapons and missles are correct in the brochure rather then the stat page, as for the rest i hope they fix that one way or the other soon p.s. i think the Phoenix is to loaded with seats and tables to make any sense for a spaceship, luxury or no, there is barely room to walk through the stuff, and the captains cabin is not really a cabin is it... unless you are a exhibitionist ^^ edit: well since the brochure stats are verified correct, i feel all warm an' fuzzi with my Phoenix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boildown Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 There can only ever be 5000 Phoenixes with LTI (theoretical maximum, not counting the multiple ship packages). So to make my LTI count the most, I bought the Phoenix upgrade. I expect that we'll all eventually be upgrading our ships and needing to buy additional insurance on the upgrades, so by starting out at a higher point, when my ship gets destroyed, it'll cost me less, or I'll need fewer upgrades, or something. Maybe. Of course its all speculation, but the best I can do at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiogan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Maybe the Phoenix can smuggle exotic goods with it's 540 FU since it had a hidden sensor-dampered cargo area? Transport contraband undetected! I kept my Andromeda and bought the stand-alone Phoenix and Taurus. The fleet of three Connies will serve me well. I wanted the Andromeda to beef up to be all military. The Taurus will earn me the $$$! And I wanted to get the limited Phoenix to have for the "fun" missions. Ben had said the stats on brochure are the correct stats. Phoenix get TR5 engine which is the same as Andromeda. Taurus will have 1900, Andromeda/Aquila 1100, Phoenix 540 FU. I upgraded my old conny to Phoenix, but the mess with the stats in Brochure and in the shipstat section left me a bit confused/sad/angry at what exactly i just bought did i get TR7 max engines or TR5? what cargo do i have now, 540 or 350? does the taurus have 576 cargo or 1900 Chris Roberts mentioned in a interview the taurus had nearly double cargo as the Andromeda so from that info 1900 would make a more reasonable cullpit i do think the weapons and missles are correct in the brochure rather then the stat page, as for the rest i hope they fix that one way or the other soon p.s. i think the Phoenix is to loaded with seats and tables to make any sense for a spaceship, luxury or no, there is barely room to walk through the stuff, and the captains cabin is not really a cabin is it... unless you are a exhibitionist ^^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiogan Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 Better Power Plant which can go up to a max of 7. Better Shield & Cooling System. Class 9 Point Defence Turrent Gun Land Rover P-72 Hidden Sensor-Dampened Cargo Area (For contraband/smuggling) Class 4 Lasers x 4 instead of Class 3 of the rest of the Variants. Lastly....Travel in Class and Luxury...lol I'm strongly thinking of upgrading my Connie to the Phoenix. For people who have done so (and also those that though about it and decided against it) what was your reasoning, and finally the turning point which make you go your respective choice? I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts and inform my own thinking. StoneJamison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Osclin Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 All I know is you can damn well bet every phoenix owner is going to reskin their ship the moment they're able. With that shiny white you'd see it even before your radar did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredworth Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 All I know is you can damn well bet every phoenix owner is going to reskin their ship the moment they're able. With that shiny white you'd see it even before your radar did. Not really. I like the white skin on my Phoenix - someone said it looks like a Star Trek ship that way Keep in mind that once an enemy is close enough to see the colour of your ship, he will have you on radar anyway. From far out the colour wont make a difference. Shootter 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
missionAvs Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I upgraded to the Aquila myself as I think I will thoroughly enjoy the exploration aspect of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneJamison Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm hoping one can eventually buy similar "exploration" upgrades for a phoenix. Don't know if one would have to trade out a turret though... (I would really like to swap out that hot tub, too.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fredworth Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I'm hoping one can eventually buy similar "exploration" upgrades for a phoenix. Don't know if one would have to trade out a turret though... (I would really like to swap out that hot tub, too.) Yes, would be nice to get some customization options for the interior. I personally would like to go for C&C with my Phoenix. The glass table would be okay for that, and you could have some map of the battlefield on the entertainment display. I would move both to where the bed and the tub are now. The space won by this I would use for a small medical area. In the game however, I don't think it will work that way. You just don't need to have a command staff sitting next to each other, coordinating your forces as you would in real life. Instead you will have channels on TS, and after three or four hours max the battle will be won and you will go home. Which is a pity. If you speak German, search YouTube for Jeremiah Rose and watch his Arma 3 videos. I am not a hardcore roleplayer, but I would love to see what he is doing with Gruppe W in Star Citizen as well! StoneJamison 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DASKOMMTDAWEG Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I upgraded to Aquila: Still have my Merlin, but can`t find my Rover? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StoneJamison Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I agree, Fred. TS will be the command room but Id still love to see some options other than "space pimp" for the cabin even if I have to use in game money to upgrade/change it. Fredworth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NuclearWoo Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 After thinking over for past two days, I think I will keep the Andromeda and not upgrade it to Phoenix. I do like the TR7 engines and S7 power plant as well as the Class 9 point defense, P-72 and the luxury rover. However, I just dont see constellation as a luxury ship. When I imagine connie, I think of her as working ship. I will hold on to the upgrade but I am not sure if I will ever apply. I've also been thinking about melting the upgrade and getting a Taurus as well. Going about this with so little information is difficult at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 After thinking over for past two days, I think I will keep the Andromeda and not upgrade it to Phoenix. I do like the TR7 engines and S7 power plant as well as the Class 9 point defense, P-72 and the luxury rover. However, I just dont see constellation as a luxury ship. When I imagine connie, I think of her as working ship. I will hold on to the upgrade but I am not sure if I will ever apply. I've also been thinking about melting the upgrade and getting a Taurus as well. Going about this with so little information is difficult at best. I urge you to reconsider. Suggestion - Upgrade to the Phoenix if you even "think" you may want it... since it is an Limited Edition.... you can always "Melt" it... and re-purchase an Andromeda. The Phoenix isn't just a Luxury ship it is a Command and Control Ship and an excellent Space Superiority ship ! If you are thinking about the Taurus as well...(or any 2nd Connie)... you should consider the "free ship" value of the $1000 "CONNIE" SUPER PACK ... see details... NOTE - also a Limited Edition Reavern and xyphon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reavern Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I agree with @VoA. Anyone who is remotely interested in the Phoenix should buy the upgrade now, while it's still available. I know that it's white hull and fancy interior aren't appealing to everyone, including myself, but its stats are what really matter, and the Phoenix's stats prove that it is the best overall Constellation model. It's possible that the shit storm over the Phoenix's luxury interior will compel CIG to give players the option to convert it into a more utilitarian layout. So if and when the interior is changed in the future, and it becomes a more appealing ship, you'd only have yourself to blame for passing on buying the Phoenix upgrade while it was available, just because you couldn't get past its superficial cosmetics. xyphon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whittle Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 After thinking over for past two days, I think I will keep the Andromeda and not upgrade it to Phoenix. I do like the TR7 engines and S7 power plant as well as the Class 9 point defense, P-72 and the luxury rover. However, I just dont see constellation as a luxury ship. When I imagine connie, I think of her as working ship. I will hold on to the upgrade but I am not sure if I will ever apply. I've also been thinking about melting the upgrade and getting a Taurus as well. Going about this with so little information is difficult at best. Having thought about it a bit more, I've warmed to the Phoenix and have applied the upgrade The multi-crew video made me think that the Class 9 will come in handy. Sure, it would be nice if they could rip-out all of the fluff and replace it with something more functional such as increased cargo, but then it may come in handy in-game for transporting people. I've already got other ships like the Merchantman and Caterpillar that can fill the cargo gap, and although going for the Phoenix means I may not be able to play as big a role in exploration as I would like (unless I'm able to get into a Carrack at a later date), I'm confident that I'll be able to join another crew and hitch a ride and go exploring in an Aquila! I also like the idea of the bigger power-plant and I think having both a ground vehicle and snub-fighter is pretty cool xyphon and VoA 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted August 17, 2014 Share Posted August 17, 2014 I agree with @VoA. Anyone who is remotely interested in the Phoenix should buy the upgrade now, while it's still available. I know that it's white hull and fancy interior aren't appealing to everyone, including myself, but its stats are what really matter, and the Phoenix's stats prove that it is the best overall Constellation model. It's possible that the shit storm over the Phoenix's luxury interior will compel CIG to give players the option to convert it into a more utilitarian layout. So if and when the interior is changed in the future, and it becomes a more appealing ship, you'd only have yourself to blame for passing on buying the Phoenix upgrade while it was available, just because you couldn't get past its superficial cosmetics. You can change the Exterior by upgrading the ship skin to whatever suites your fancy. For the interior..... some people (including you @Reavern) really need to keep it for a reason (Command and Control) ---- What would be really cool if the style bugs you .... is the option to have the External Ship skin (add on)..... also apply and change the "theme" and "skin" of the interior ------ I think I am going to add this as an RSI Game Idea thread and here on Deadhiel and xyphon 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deadhiel Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I ended up with one of each upgrade and i'll either melt two of them later (as I only have 1 connie) or i'll apply CCU to two or three of my Aurora's.. To be honest the Aquila is the one that grabs me at the moment. The Transport variant is nice but with the MM & Cat, I don't think i'd need it. The LUX model has awesome stats but i hate the internal look of the ship.. Too hard to choose at the mo.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VoA Posted August 18, 2014 Share Posted August 18, 2014 I ended up with one of each upgrade and i'll either melt two of them later (as I only have 1 connie) or i'll apply CCU to two or three of my Aurora's.. Why buy "each upgrade" ... and not each "ship" ? -- just to do the CCU with your Auroras (save the CCU for other big ships like the Retaliator, 890 Jump, etc... and get the Combo Connie Pack.... you should check out the brochures of each version - they are much more different than stats indicate (for instance the Taurus has a bunch of stuff listed in the brochure that are not apparent on the ship spec page). You should also check out the value of the $190 value (like getting a free ship) --- while it is stil available (ONLY less than 150 left). You can also sell each Connie at the start of the PU when the ships will be in high demand from those starting the game at the Launch of the PU (and didn't pledge). ++ You can become a "proficient Connie" pilot if you own all 4 (and your "choice" of ship for the mission type). xyphon 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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